Female Takeover

[danny1988]

[lisacd20]

i find this super interesting, id love to talk to a real tist about it.

[robindf1]

[pczelda]

[robindf1]

[macdaddy]

Very intriguing. Some of my observations:

I never saw the initial uncensored thread - the link above let me do that (and the whole thread is there at least for me - page 2 and 3 links worked and pulled up the archived pages).

My opinion is that the initial poster basically made up a story using partial truths - they say they started listening on Jan 21, but by Jan 29 the female personality was fully in control - according to the posters OP that should not have happened for about 9 weeks - mid march. If the file was the only thing working then the take over could not have happened. The OP also said he wanted to be a female and was listening to other files too at the same time - to me it is obvious that the Female Takeover file was not the real culprit in his case, it was his unconscious desire to become a female that was the root of it all. Again, this is all my opinion.

Personally I have bought and listened to this file many times over a period of several years. And Nada. Never any effect - never heard a girls voice in my head. I guess my subconscious does not want me to really be a female - I have a family, and responsibilities in this life I do not want to give up.

That said, The Forced Gay Curse really took me for a ride - I guess my subconscious knew I could integrate the effects of that file successful into my life. I wrote in detail about my experiences last month in the Forced Gay Success thread.

IMHO the fun of this site is the thrill of trying new things - and the knowledge that hypnosis will only work as far as your subconscious allows; that is the real fail safe. If a fantasy erotic hypnosis file works, something inside you MUST want it - otherwise you will eventually fight it off.

The other great thing is the exchange of ideas, the diversity of viewpoints and open mindedness of most posters when it comes to some pretty kinky fetishes - and the knowledge that there is a safety net of sorts - the many helpful and wise people on this site who give forthright advice about those fetishes when asked.

As an aside, brainwashing is another subject and should not be confused with hypnosis - repetitive brainwashing will alter someones world view whether they realize it or not. It is the secret of many successful TV advertising campaigns. I still don't squeeze the Charmin after all these years, I know Mikey will eat anything, and I still take Alka Selzer when I can't believe I ate the whole thing...

Cheers everyone - love the discussion and again this is all MHO. :D

[danny1988]

[robindf1]

[pczelda]

[danny1988]

[Marian]

I believe this file is dangerous but the second person is not a second person but a modus from yourself. If it works it induce a dissociative identity disorder - worse enough and a reason to warn, this is a very serious mental ilness.

[macdaddy]

Just wonderin'

Are any of the commentator's here medical professionals who are qualified to make medical statements? Or is everyone just stating opinions or anecdotal statements? I know I am (not a medical person), that's why I made sure my posts clearly state they are just my opinion. Some clarity would be welcome so I can weight each side's arguments accordingly.

My concern is that if this is so serious a matter as a file causing an actual mental illness, my take is that perhaps this site should be a 'membership only closed' site. This is because all the files here could be said to cause some degree of mental instability by a <quote>normal <unquote> person, with out any fetishes, who stumbles upon the site and does not take heed of the name of the site and it's intended audience of fetishists. Heck, by definition we fetishists are out of the ordinary - some would call us mentally challenged already, lol.

(And lest we not forget those files that make one want to go have unprotected sex with the homeless, or sleazy strangers one meets at sleazy bars or bookstores - those files exist on this site and truly do present a clear medical risk - sexually transmitted diseases are a real danger. Why is no one complaining about them? I won't - because I am an adult who understands the risk, and those files are part of my fetish - I listen to them occasionally as they are a fun fantasy to me.)

My current understanding is that the site is supposed to be a nonjudgmental place where adult fetishists can come and have fun, i.e. different strokes for different folks. My feeling is most everyone here is an adult, or should be, and unless the site management takes a file down because there is a factual, reasonable chance of a serious medical issue, then a warning or 2 about a file is not out of line, but constantly railing against a file one does not like is quite off putting. And taking it too lightly and not understanding the possible risks if it is actually dangerous is also disquieting

JMHO Cheers! :D

[Marian]

Yes. Fetish is the keyword. The remember "safe, sane, consensual" and "risk-aware consensual kink".

Therefor you must know what you are doing. The point here is: You can listen alone, in RL you have a partner you'll discuss with. So it must be possible to warn here. Everybody can listen but should know the possible consequences.

[pczelda]

[robindf1]

Fine. You are welcome to nag at everyone about every minor thing they do with every minor file or every little thing that people say you personally find offensive. You can do that and ruin the whole forum all you want. I'll find somewhere else to get my rocks off where I can enjoy myself without feeling like someone's mother is looking over my shoulder. Fetish site my ass.

[KIY]

Okay by me. I'm all for the "informed" part of "informed consent."

The original thread about that file was pretty scarey. It might not effect everyone like it did that guy-- he seemed to be a young college student with gender identity troubles, which means he was probably under a lot of stress to start with, so people without that stress might not have the same reaction. And it is true that it might have been some sort of weird prank-- people do do that sort of thing. But it is possible it was real, so folks should be aware of the risks when playing around with their minds.

Sometimes it is a good thing to try to make people think before they act.

[ProfessorPig]

[pczelda]

[robindf1]

[danny1988]

[robindf1]

[danny1988]

[KIY]

At least as far back as the days of newsgroups on the internet there has been a saying "If you don't like someones posts, don't read them.

It is between danny1988 and however is considering the file. No one else. No one tells anyone else what to say or not to say or what to do or not do. That is part of what makes this a "fetish site." If you lose your erection whenever someone posts a warning, just don't read posts from that poster any more.

I don't really know anything about the "faggot" post. It is legitimate for someone to say something if they find the term offensive. It is legitimate for someone to say why they disagree with that person. But telling someone not to post/complain is not legitimate. They freedom to post what you want is part of what makes this a fetish website. (Whether or not someone posts anymore is up the owner of the website. But that is another set of freedoms entirely.)

If you disagree with danny1998 about whether or not the file is dangerous, and someone else is considering it, you are free to post why you think he is wrong. That is just giving more information to the person considering using more information. Ultimately it is up to the person who is considering the file whether or not they use it. That is part of what makes this a fetish website.

Telling someone not to post/to shut up doesn't add anything useful and restricts their freedom. A fetish website is not about restricting freedom.

There are a great number of users here, only EMG knows how many for certain. There are going to be multiple points of view, and some of them are going to conflict. A civil, CONSTRUCTIVE discussion strengthens a website (or any other organization, really.) If this is going to useful, please add some new information to the discussion. At this point it seems to be a case of "You're Wrong!" "No, YOU'RE Wrong!"

The best thing to do at this point is for you to ignore danny1988's posts. Trying to get him to stop actually is more contrary to the nature of a fetish website because you are trying to restrict what he can do on here.

Whining about someone whining really doesn't make a very good case. I was taught that way back in the last century in junior high/middle school.

[robindf1]

[pczelda]

[robindf1]

[danny1988]

Can everyone please chill, I cant even remember what started this now.
You would like it if I stopped nagging and telling people of the dangers of this file Robin? I cant I am still going to inform people of the dangers of this file Robin, I don't want to get into an argument about it. If you think im nagging fine but I feel obligated to make people aware of what this file does.

What you see as nagging I don't I see it as keeping people safe from this file. Yes you see it differently but I see it this way. We each have our own views.

[KIY]

[robindf1]

[danny1988]

[pczelda]

Seems like we've come to a stalemate, and we'll have to agree to disagree and move on. Like has been said here we're all adults, and I'd even add mature, so let's let bygones be bygones ok? Though I'd hate to see anyone leave over this instead of coming to some kind of agreement, if you feel you must, please do whatever you think is best for you.

Danny I'm looking forward to seeing your reply to the message I sent you, when you have the time.

[robindf1]

[danny1988]

[pczelda]

[robindf1]

[pczelda]

[robindf1]

[Randalll]

Sorry I haven't updated in a bit. I've been too busy to listen to the file. Today I listened twice and updated my journal. For those of you who wanted me to post it in the thread, here it is:

"This is the first I've listened in over a week and let me tell you, I went deeper than I ever have. I had a little extra time upon awakening so I decided to give it a second listen for today. Good thing because It was the most awesome experience I ever had in trance. I kept missing whole chunks of the file. I had loss of body consciousness. I could see a little girl. It was as if she was speaking EMG's words using his voice. She was getting closer and closer to me as the file progressed, aging older and younger simultaneously, until she got so close that she "merged" with me. I felt myself inside her body. It was like I was one of those russian dolls. It was soooo in intense. TBH it put me a little on edge because of how real it seemed. "

It was so vivid. I could see her face she would age from a baby to my age and back again. I'm not sure what the girls voice actually sounded like and I still haven't heard a voice in my head yet, but too me this seems like progress. I was like that movie "Being John Malkevich" one she "merged" with me. It was strange.

[broerk]

Wow that sounds pretty awesome and scary at the same time knowing what it does. Almost makes me want to try the file again myself :lol:

Strange you haven't heared her talk yet. Are you sure you haven't had thoughts yet where you wondered if that was her or just your own mind messing with you?. As I had that pretty quickly when I was still trying the file myself. Just curious

[Randalll]

Its funny that you mention it. I have had thoughts that I thought were weird and sometimes some weird conversations in my head but I've always had them with myself. I have been noticing it a little more lately though I guess. Did think that I was hearing the voice though. I was expecting more of an auditory hallucination. What kinds of thoughts did you have?

[broerk]

Good question. I must confess I don't remember a lot of it anymore as it's been quite a while back for me.

I do remember right before I started on the deprogram files that I had an lengthy conversation with her(or was it just myself?). About using or not using the deprogram files. As you could imagine she didn't feel to happy about it. She felt like she was gonna disappear forever. So I tried to convince her that it wasn't so bad even for her by telling her she was a part of me to begin with that she had already always existed as part of my subconscious and that all that rly would change would be that we would become one again and that it was better for us to be one again so neither of us had to struggle for control of the body. It did feel like she was more at piece with it when our conversation ended. Then I used the deprogram file from EMG and I must say for the next two days. I felt really into becoming feminized(maybe her pulling some strings for the last time?) and now I have no after effects at all anymore.

Still not sure if it was just my own mind playing tricks on me or not. It was still an very weird conversation to have within your own ind that's for sure.

Also for how long have you been using the file now? How long untill she is supposed to take you over completly?

[Randalll]

I've been using since july 2nd. Full takeover date should be november 6th. Not sure you start the time from when you first listen to the file or when you first hear here voice. If that is the case, then I have no idea when the full takeover date is.

[OxyFemboi]

[danny1988]

[arron]

i just wanna say that i have been in a simular position once before not from files from here but from a woman i knew that i thought was a good friend of mine we got along fine then we talked about our likes and ect and i said "im interested in hypnosis" (being at the time i never did it) boy it was one of the biggest mistakes i did because little did i know that she was a hypnotist and she was good at NLP so for the next year we talked and chatted had fun but more and more i was starting to have strange thoughts of being a sissy and being girly and even whating to be a full girl then came "Anna" my female personalty she was at 1st merely a thought a name i thought up the reason i have no clue all this was happing about the 3-4 mouth mark of meeting and speaking and having fun with this "friend" then came the blank spots in my memory like i would be with her at 12 a.m. and the next thing i know it was 7p.m with little or no memory of what i was doing saying speaking ect witch at the time really made me disorientated confused ect and she was there to "care for me" little did i know she was the one doing it at the time i didn't know she was feeding of my confusion my disorientated to get me closer to her then after time passing i gress i would say the 5-6 mouth mark (my memory of some of it is a mess so i don't really remember allot) came the mental strugel between me (arron) and her (Anna) the gaps of time got longer the less i knew what i was doing a few times i woke up thinking " is this really me is this who i am" let me tell u very scary shit" but me being the complete dumbass i was i believed her the more i wanted to stay around her because in my eyes i thought shed keep me save the fighting with Anna and myself got worse and worse to the point where days would become weeks of time missing best way i can explain it then the worst thing happened the girl who had been doing this lofted i still to this day know where she when where she gone too but that time was hell for me not only was i fighting this personality in my head but the one girl i thought or was made to believe was helping me went every single word i talked about that i can rember was about her every sentence I'd tall about her for 3 straite mouths i did that sad alone and confused not to mention what ever she was or what she made Anna out to be personality wise!

that was four years ago thankful am fine for the most part over then having a rubbish memory "Anna" still as much alive as i am thought as silly as this sounds we work together not against each over we have set rules for each over we do not cross because thought i was nieeve open minded and a complete dumbass at the time do not give me the right to destroy or wipe Anna away to me that would be like killing someone someone truthfully over the four years i couldn't live with out i respect her as much as she respects me yes we like our things and we have different ways of having fun but we never cross the that line she comes out and takes control when IM ill or if she wants to have fun and i need a rest even cares for me and i do the same its not been an easy road to get to the point where am at

the reason why am telling you all this is PLEASE do research talk to someone u know like a friend whose into hypnosis or even people in this forum tread like Danny and the people who show they yes like to have fun but don't wish to see people hurt or destroyed if u do this file or anything like it PLAN back ups if it gets to crazy don't let anyone from here u don't know or DON'T trust work with u and most of all please take care yes hypnosis can be fun if used right but it can also destroy you

don't end up like me who didn't do any research "jumped" into it think i can handle it because if u cant u can be hurt

so please please don't end up like me

i don't wanna see anyone hurt

(to this day ive never told anyone about Anna or what happened to me but with what i hured in this topic about a guy getting trapped permanitly i wanted to say something and if it makes a person reconsider or even stop them using this type of file (the type of person who just wanna jumps into it thinking it fun and don't care about the risks of ruining there life then im glad me and Anna spoke up about it)

please stay safe
from arron and anna

[Randalll]

Today I finally heard her voice. It was not an auditory hallucination as I had thought it would be, but it was a conversation within my head. I would ask questions and then answer them, however the answers seemed like they were disconnected from my normal thoughts. She told me her name is Samantha Rose. She also told me we are gonna get to know each other VERY well.

I listened to the Accelerator file before the takeover file and I went very very deep. I still feel like I'm in a trance even after waking from the file so I guess it's possible that my mind is just playing games with me. I'll keep you updated if anything else happens.

[NeoSilver]

One would hope Sam and you both would make an effort to keep us updated, Randall.

[im_not_here]

[hypdude]

[hypnoidf]

Hi,

Do you have any update ?

Hypnoidf