The forced gay success thread...

[Alien4420]

I'd say it's almost guaranteed to work! There have been almost no failures here -- I think one guy just didn't stay in trance with CFG, I guess he was just too resistant, and then there were some guys who used files to turn straight again before CFG was in deeply and a couple who ended up bi -- but since this is what you want I don't think any of that will affect you.

BTW, for me and for some others attraction to women was the last thing to go. I felt gay long before and couldn't have sex with women because I couldn't stay hard anymore but I'd still look at women or porn and get turned on. Well, the way I came to look at it is that most straight people are a bit bi anyway. Now women can still look beautiful to me but it's like there's a filter that blocks attraction e.g. to breasts and I started liking male faces rather than female ones. Faces were also hard for a lot of us because CFG doesn't have a face suggestion but that's fixed in the Forced Gay file, the one that combines CFG and Train Sex Men. I knew I'd really turned when facial hair stopped turning me off and turned me on instead!

Also, at some point, I really became gay in that rather than having this sense that my straightness was being blocked and these new desires tacked on I just accepted it as what I was. Now when I think about straight sex I get anxious, as I used to get anxious when I thought about gay sex. Or if I see a man and woman kissing, say, on TV, I get uncomfortable the way I used to get if I saw two guys. It's all been flipped on its head.

[OxyFemboi]

[santi777]

[Alien4420]

Well I live in a small place and everyone knows everyone else. It didn't take me very long to meet some gay guys in my neighborhood. First I made eye contact with someone at the doctor's office, but we had appointments and I didn't see him after that. Then I was approached by a hustler and said no to his little junkie self, but became friends with him and his boyfriend and met some other guys in the neighborhood through them. So I've never tried the online thing. Besides which condoms aren't 100%. I try to edit out promiscuity suggestions after a first listen but they're in a lot of files so I've heard a lot of them, plus sometimes I miss them or they're hidden Ericksonian stuff (hi, Sarnoga). So I think I've pretty much been programmed to give my body to anyone who wants it. Since I read that something like 40% of the guys you meet through the Internet are HIV+, I try to keep myself away from situations where those suggestions would be put to the test, though I confess I love the idea of having no choice and I'm really curious about whether they'd work, so some day I may go somewhere and see if they do. :-)

[santi777]

[Alien4420]

Hey, I never thought of that. I'm sort of unfinished TS -- took hormones and changed but never stopped living as a guy. Back then if you met people online no one knew what the other looked like and I was too shy to dress and go to tranny bars. I just wish I had some privacy here, I'd give your technique a try since really while I like being a gay bottom and I think I'v gotten too old to be desirable as a girl, heaven for me would still be being someone's shemale bitch.

[avalon69]

I just love the support network that has sprung up to help straight visitors go gay here!

Big hugs to all you support queens!!!!


*muahh*
xxxx
ava

[Alien4420]

We won't rest until every straight guy in the world has turned gay, and every gay guy has turned straight. :-)

[West7]

I've been listening to these curse forced gay, change preference, sissy files, pretty much any that encourage you to suck or be fucked on and off for years. Im 25 and started listening when about 16. Guess I've always been straight curious. Never done anything to act on it, but as you guys know its always been getting a little stronger. Now find myself frequently messaging guys on grindr to flirt and exchange pics. Still too scared to meet any, worried about that regret feeling after, but def getting closer. Any guys who have been through the same thing feel free to message me to chat or post here. Im currently trying to find a mistress to dom me and lead me through the final stages.
Anyway wanted to say I've been enjoying this thread from a distance for years!

[Alien4420]

Hi West,

I know what you're going through. I've been through that myself. It's really hard to get past all the negative social programming but I know that the more I do, the happier I am.

Regarding guys on Grindr, what I'd suggest is that you have a few drinks some night and invite some guy over. Tell him you're curious and inexperienced, he'll be cool with that and excited. And then you can talk and try some stuff. I think you'll find that it's a lot like swimming in cold water, it's hard to get in but once you've taken the plunge, you're suddenly comfortable. Just use condoms and play safe.

Two files I've found helpful with my reticence are sluttinmhead's Positive Gay Male, which has lots of positive suggestions about being gay, and EMG's Freedom from Mental Bondage. Also EMG's Train Not Shy, if shyness is getting in the way as it does for me. And I'm really looking forward to the file Endo is working on, which is designed to help us accept our sissy nature, something I still wrestle with.

Mind Mistress does phone sessions and is in to feminization and turning guys gay, so if you have some dough, you could do some sessions with her:

http://adult.hypnoticwishes.com/

Regarding the regret feeling, yah, I had that for quite a while. Loved the changes when I was horny, freaked out the moment I'd come. But I think it wears off after time. I've passed the point at which I felt any regrets about being gay, it really was just fear and no substance, being gay is great. So once you realize that the fears are just inside you you're cool with it.

Anyway, really glad to have you here.

[West7]

Hi thanks so much for reply. All good ideas. Yeah it's crazy while I'm horny I'm now sending guys my location on grindr. Not yet giving address but plan too soon. Baby steps. I don't want anything as much as I want a cock when I'm horny. Just need to cross that threshold and get a man over. I feel I'm closer than ever before. Thinking of not masturbating for a while to build up the desire and stop the cycle of two steps forward one step back. Feels good just to share.

[santi777]

[Alien4420]

[Hypno_Dog]

[Alien4420]

Someone found the file on Slutinmyhead's website:

http://gayhypnosis.com/front/audio/programmable-bottom/

[santi777]

[Alien4420]

Hey, that sounds pretty cool! The 20-y-o guys, I mean. :-)

I live in the boondocks now so there's probably no professional transformation service. For that matter, probably not that many dates, and everyone knows everyone else so that's another issue.

I really have to move back to civilization . . . New York or LA . . .

[Alien4420]

Hey, that sounds pretty cool! The 20-y-o guys, I mean. :-)

I live in the boondocks now so there's probably no professional transformation service. For that matter, probably not that many dates, and everyone knows everyone else so that's another issue.

I really have to move back to civilization . . . New York or LA . . .

[OxyFemboi]

[avalon69]

Perhaps we could all all move to a town together and live in harmony. That would be delicious!

[santi777]

[OxyFemboi]

[Alien4420]

And, of course, missionary position heterosexual sex will be against the law, ministers will threaten those who don't have extramarital sex with eternal damnation, and anyone caught being vanilla will have to go to a hypnotherapist to have perversions installed.

[avalon69]

[chibicure]

Hi Everyone,

I want to start by saying, WOW. And then uh oh. So I'm married and have been without sex for about 18 months. My wife just doesn't have a big drive so I've been spending some time online using stories and femdom to find my fantasies. Those with men who are forced-bi or somehow find themselves tricked or forced gay really got me hot for a while. But I've never been really attracted to anything other than the cock. I've played with toys and everything, but never been able to be attracted to men. Always felt uncomfortable around gay couples, watching them together, kissing, making out, even gay porn. Always had the effect of shutting me down. What I liked was being submissive and considering the change.

But here's the thing. My search for another fantasy led me to Curse Forced Gay. I haven't tried any other hypnosis ever. And I didn't read this forum first. So two nights ago, because I had just a little time to sneak away, instead of reading the warnings, I just downloaded and listened. When it was over, I was hard as a rock, scanned for some gay porn and just exploded at the first thing I saw. That was when I decided to start reading this thread. Maybe I should have read this first?

The idea of a permanent change has always excited me, but as I said, never really looked at men. Not in the shower, not at work, not on the street. Not attracted to them. LOVE to look at women. But here's the thing. I heard the file once. Two nights ago. And I've had some very interesting things happen since.

First, I've been having random pop-up hardons like when I was in high school, just thinking about what I've done. Today I had a lunch meeting with a guy and I found myself thinking that he was pretty attractive. I struck up a completely natural conversation with an openly gay (almost camp) co-worker. I had wood on and off all day thinking about what I've started and what is going on.

I've listened to the file ONCE. Just ONCE. I was just chasing the next edge of that fantasy and it read just like tons of other files that threaten scary results but don't come true. But this... I'm so turned on and want to listen again now. But I'm married, family... don't want to destroy all of that. But after one listen, I'm finding myself so impacted. If I even listen one more time, I could be done. But it is begging me to listen. I don't know which me is the real me, but could use some advise.

I appreciate all of the support I've seen on this thread reading through it. You guys are amazing for each other. Is this the real me coming through and being released by this file? Or is this just the file and it is really that good?

[Sherardp]

chibicure: I did the same thing as you a couple weeks ago. Same situation exactly as you, cept my spouse is currently pregnant with our first. And I have a very conservative/religious family.

I was informed I should listen to the deprogram all, but I for some reason dont want too. I have kept myself from listening to again, which I am recently starting to notice girls again. But at the same time something keeps making me want to listen to this file again.

My suggestion to you is to think of your family first. If your really interested in seeing what you think of men try the cursed force bi.

Its your life what you want, but try to think how you will affect others before making your decision.

[Alien4420]

Wow, Chibicure, I don't know what to say.

My first thought was yeah, been there, done that, I know all the stuff you're going through although it happened more slowly with me.

My second thought was yeah, you have a wife and kids, you have to put your family first although you've been without sex for too long so if you aren't having sex with your wife and it's because of her, well, I think she has to grant you a sexual outlet more satisfying than porn.

My third is, well, maybe you really are this way? This is a question we all ask ourselves but I know that for me the changes were gradual and there was a lot of resistance along the way. On the other hand, it may just be that you're a great hypnotic subject. There are scales for that and tests that a hypnotist can perform. Did you go into a very deep trance?

[chibicure]

Yeah, I know, right? I mean, now that I've read through tons of this thread, I've certainly gotten the message of "watch-out", but I laid awake this morning with wood, unable to get images and ideas of men out of my head.

I don't know if I went into a deep trance. I've never done hypnosis before but I don't really remember a bunch of the file. I remember initially kind of annoyed at the voice, cringing because I've not really been attracted to actual guys, but then not minding it and then I'm really not sure I even really heard the whole file. I can't even tell you all of the parts in it... I just remember there being a long beginning and then realizing that I was rock hard and it was over. I didn't fall asleep, I don't think.

Is that what a deep trance is? I kinda figured I just wanted to hear what was in the file to see whether it was like other stuff I'd read somewhere. I just can't remember what was in the file. This is kinda making me want to listen again just to find out.

[chibicure]

[Sherardp]

Exactly, just FYI although I am attracted to women again the sight of cock still turns me on. I wouldn't quite say I am by from one listen cause I don't think I could go through with it with a man.

But I do know if I listen to it again, then I will greatly increase the chance of that happening. So I have chosen for myself not to listen to no matter the urge.

[santi777]

[OxyFemboi]

[alphabeta11]

I don't think the file has fully affected you, I think it will wear off in due time. I think the fact that your wife and you haven't had sex you are just willing enough to make a fantasy to please you because you are desperate for sexual action. I would recommend not listening, consult a marriage counsellor or talk with your wife that you need sex. It's a two person relationship, some guys do need sexual interaction, they think it is an important thing. Women might not but that's women. You are just so horny and this is your outlet, I wouldn't worry much. But if you do listen more, it will get to you. You can beat anything. I don't think it's too late at all, some might be over reacting to a few listens or one. But one thing that is true, that you are most definitely bisexual or at the very least, bicurious.

[Alien4420]

[Alien4420]

Yeah to what everyone said and I'm going to suggest listening to Deprogram All. It's designed to take out every file you've listened to. Since you were out during the file, you may not know that there are suggestions in this curse that make you keep listening to the file and prevent attempts at escape. Since you've listened only once the suggestions will tend to wear off but I know from experience that one can become trapped by those suggestions to keep listening, it's happened to me on numerous occasions. Also that you can have long term effects from files you've listened to only once, they won't take you over after a single listen but they *will* become part of you and *some* of the suggestions will stick or resurface when something elicits the memory.

So I'd listen to Deprogram All every day for a week, try to deal with the sexual issue with your wife (I agree that women, whose sexual needs are different, can be naive about this and I've seen marriages destroyed as a result), and then explore the possibility that you're bi or even gay leaning. If your wife doesn't want to have sex anymore it might be possible to reach an accommodation with her whereby you get your sexual enjoyment elsewhere, there are more than a few married gay or bi guys who are happy to hook up.

[chibicure]

Oxdude, I may be in a world of hurt here. I realized that my player was on repeat and I may have listened multiple times. Which might be why when I went to try and shrug it off and let it go based on all your advice last night, I found myself listening again this morning. It was the only thing that stopped all of the anxiety that I was awake with most of the night.

I get that I must have cracked something open here in a big way. I don't know how to say, "a couple of days ago, I listened to this mp3" and now I need counseling and professional help. Hard to believe that anyone could take me seriously, especially my wife. I mean, it isn't like I went out and had an encounter or an affair. I just listened to some really erotic suggestions about needing men instead of women. Right?

It feels sooo good to be this hot and bothered all of the time right now. Every thought about this gets be both turned on and incredibly anxious. It is such a Wonderful feeling to release to these new ideas. So much better than what has been for the past while.

I have to admit. I am so impressed how much you are all thinking of the big picture and not just getting excited about another turnee. I feel like you have the best interests at heart. I guess I'll look to deprogram tonight and see if that makes it stop. I wish it didn't feel so good though...

[Alien4420]

Yeah, go with Deprogram All *twice* a day, morning and night, and keep at it for weeks. You don't want to give the compulsion to listen again a chance to come back. Better yet, there's an undo file, buy it from EMG -- it's going to be $70 or something but given the stakes that's petty cash.

As to the effects -- yeah, it is fun, you'll spend months feeling like a teenager again because you'll be twice as horny as usual and you'll be discovering an entire new sexual world. But you're also going to find that you can't do it with women anymore. That's about the last thing to go, at least it was for me.

Being gay is great and I wish I could cheer you on, but it sounds like the price is too high and that you should get it removed and try the bi files instead.

[chibicure]

[Alien4420]

[jan]

chibicure -

If you can't resist it now, why would it be easier later? It won't be. If you allow yourself to get to the point where you have gay sex, the positive feedback loops will just get stronger.

If you want to stop, jerk off immediately you get horny, and before you listen to the file. Fantasize straight or kinky-straight to do it. Don't listen to the file under any circumstances. This might require some discipline, but if you want to regain control of your life, just do it.

The alternative is the same as you can read in all these CFG threads - many, many buys who never believed it have ended up gay.

The choice is yours, if you choose to exercise it.

jan

[OxyFemboi]

[Alien4420]

You're right. I promised to send it to Robin but it's a WAV and just the body and I have to make an MP3 of it and reattach the induction/awakening etc. So I have to find some time to do it but when I've made the MP-3 I'll post it here.

[chibicure]

Okay, okay. I've just never allowed myself to explore this part of me before. I've always put aside any fantasies and felt guilty if I ever used a fantasy to orgasm. But this... This there is no guilt afterwards. It isn't like I am yo-young, it's like falling into bliss each time... And each time falling further. It is addictive, but not in the bad way I thought it would be, but in an extremely pleasurable way. The problem is that I'm not even sure it is a problem right now... I want to listen even as I am writing this because it feels so delicious. It is a really great file that my brain is saying, "why stop if you love and crave it so much?"

I get your messages, I do... I really appreciate the advice... I don't know which choice to make right now.

[OxyFemboi]

[OxyFemboi]

[chibicure]

I get it. I'm being selfish here by doing this in secret, but I think it is understandable to want to figure out what I really want and need before sitting down to tell everyone who could be impacted. I mean if this is just a momentary fascination with a feeling, I don't want to make a big deal of it.

On the other hand, if this is more than that, I don't know who I am to even tell anyone yet. I am so hot for this right now that I don't know if I'm just in lust mode or really making a change. Today I was leaking precum in my dress slacks at work just reading thoughtful pms from members and this thread. That hasn't happened since I was a teenager. There was a guy at the cafeteria who I may have freaked out by staring him up and down so unabashedly. And a girl I met with today who I always checked out who I felt kinda blah about today. It is the most waking pleasure I can ever remember feeling.

But like most erotic drugs, it probably will lose its potency after a couple of hits. It can't feel like this forever, right? So won't I know then which direction is right for me? I want this to keep feeling good and wish we could enjoy it together.

[Sherardp]

chibicure lets evaluate the facts. You mentioned you never had a gay thought before listening to the file. Now you are, to me this we can deduct that the file has changed you.

Next you have a family whom you still care about. And your using a fact that she isn't putting out for you anymore. As an excuse to finish the process.

Here is the thing the moment you are gay the marriage is over. Do you have kids? If so you will chance not getting to see them anymore also.

My question to you are you willing to loose this? If so then tell your wife now. If not tell your wife the truth and talk to her. Tell her you made a mistake and need help. Also keep in mind women only put out when they feel loved. Maybe she hasn't felt love or the romantic spark in a while.

My suggestion is your family is more important than your newly derived sexual problem. This problem is due to something you decided to do, which I am in the same boat maybe not as extreme but I am.

Honestly, if your honest with her and tell her the truth, you might realize how much she actually loves you or she might want out of the relationship. Either way you will know the right choice from her actions.

I was raised in a very religious family where being gay is a sin. I do not say this to preach at anyone, but I say this because I think you should pray about it. God still loves people who are Gay. Pray about it beforehand. No one can give you the answer you want to hear but your family, God, and yourself. You will ultimately make the right choice. In telling you this I need to do the same for myself, I am still feeling the urges and I am thinking I listened to the file 3 weeks ago.

[jan]

chibicure, I agree with Sherardp - work on resolving your current relationship now, either fixing it or ending it. Jumping into gay sex while still being in this troubled relationship is not a clean choice. It is your unhappiness that is making this so attractive, and you are thinking with your cock, not your brain.

CFG will still be there afterwards, if you still want it, but it makes your current situation even messier by pursuing it now.

My two cents, and worth every penny you paid for it:)

jan

[santi777]

[chibicure]

I guess I've really done a poor job explaining me and everything about me. I wished that I would have started with an explanation of the fantastic night I had in college with a girl who was stroking me and teasing me about hooking me up with her gay friend and taking me to a gay bar to see how hot it would be to try and land a guy there. How I had probably the best orgasm of my life that night. How I found an Advocate magazine in my college friends' dorm and stole it from him to read it and got so hot reading it. But then threw it out because I felt so guilty. Gay and bi fantasies have been suppressed my entire life to make "the right choice."

I've always done the "right" thing because even cumming to the idea of other choices led to extreme guilt and bad feelings afterwards. I never dealt with those feelings, I admit. I just did the right thing and got the right girlfriends and the right job and the right house and the right wife and and and...

The right thing was never to admit gay or bi fantasies to the right wife. To never share them or try to be okay with them myself. They only came in very sporadic (like once every couple of years) spurts of interest in being submissive to men/master/daddy/cock as concepts. I couldn't even look at pictures or porn because that made it too real and refocused the guilt. I suspect some of my aversion to seeing male couples together or kissing was a sick type of jealousy that was making have too much of an opinion. But stories without faces have been hot for a while. Except for the guilt that followed every time.

I can see this only through the light of the difference that I have experienced in the last several days. Maybe it is being "forced" to do something that I've deep down never let myself admit I wanted. Maybe it is about someone taking away all of the excuses and taking away the ability to find the "right" choice and just go in one direction.

I'm not saying that there aren't consequences... i'm just saying that I've always chosen the path with the least controversial consequences no matter what. To be free to experience another path and to realize that I haven't had an ounce of guilt when I am done with the file. For the first time ever I've looked at gay porn and relaxed into the hot horny feelings. I'm sick and tired of always doing the right thing...

I'm not sure I understand why, when this pandora's box has been opened, am I supposed to run back to my wife, reconvince the two of us that we should be having sex, seek counseling if we don't, and then declare a failed relationship to listen to an mp3 that is helping me feel so good about gay. Frankly, just the more positive interactions I've had with gay men at work has been eye-opening.

But I respect your opinions, I really do. So I'll stop banging away at this thread and do my best to leave the gay files to the single men. I'll go back and do the "right" thing. Once again. Best.