need some n00b help...

[Phantom_Lonestar]

ok...im kinda nervous bout this...i firstly wanna know...is this evil? Cause i noticedthese things were called curses, thats just a name right...not really any magical thing there?. I mean I am Christian, and i would like to try one of these, but I am not sire if it is right to do so....or is this just some thing that is just mental....also what one would you suggest for me to try and tell me what it does...im sorry if i bothered anyone...and thank you for helping...please help...

[Phantom_Lonestar]

this is gonna sound dumb...but i wanna try that typing thing where you type anything you want and it mentally comes true...cause i kinda wanted to see what real life would look like as an anime...but i might have got the concept wrong...

[BillionSix]

The files aren't evil or magical, but many of them are certainly perverted, at least by most people's standards. Whether perverted=evil is up to you and your personal beliefs.
Hypnosis is simply a state of deep relaxation and focus in which the mind is made much more suggestable. You can't be made to do anything against your core beliefs and personality. If a person is affected by a slave training file, it is because he or she wants to be.
As for the Curse files, that is just a term that has come up on this site to describe a site where the person is compelled to keep listening, and the change is supposedly permanent. Whether is actually happens depends on the individual.
Your idea for making the world look all anime sounds interesting. I say give it a shot. Doesn't sound evil to me, unless you are into the hentai stuff. ;)

Brian

[MikeWulf]

Hypnosis isn't evil, but it also isn't believed in by the churches. But that is the same as evolution etc. etc. so believe what you will.

[Phantom_Lonestar]

what do you mean "not believed in" chirch wise? do they consider it a sin? or do they just not really like the concept of it?

[sandy82]

[Jack]

It all depends on who you talk to. Some forms/practices are endorsed by certain churches/religions/religious people.

I'm fairly sure that hypnosis used for most non-regular sexual behavior(furry transformation, ccp, etc), a.k.a. "kinky fun", are not endorsed by the majority of the aforementioned.

I've been told by a number of catholic(and non-catholic) priests that hypnosis used to 'cure' impotence/frigidity is 100% acceptable since in the bible "God" tells people to "Go forth and multiply."(Also called 'go have lots of kids so we can have their souls in chains for our own ends, muahaha!')

The curse files are files that are designed to be mostly permanent/run their course unless you pay someone(EMG/a hypnotist you go and see) some money to remove it. All the other files on this website can be removed by using the DeProgramAll mp3 provided by EMG in the files section.


P.S. If you can't tell... I have a strong dislike for any religion, organized or not, whose basic tenets make people feel ashamed for being born and apply guilt to manipulate you into "donating"... wait this is turning into a rant. Continue as if you read nothing typed in this post script.

[everworlder]

In the end it is your choice. It is not evil, some of the stuff on this site would probably offend the church, but alot of it, the church wouldnt care. It all depends on what ur looking for

for instance. Trig freezes are probably not going to offend anyone really, same with trig gone and most of the self help and simple inductions. Also i cant see too much of a problem with other files of this kind of nature, like trig amnesia.

On the other hand, the catholic church at the very least would almost definitely take offense to the bestiality stuff, the files intended to make a person gay, and probably the furry stuff, the feminization stuff and they probably wouldnt be too pleased at a couple of other files.

So it depends on ur view. Which is important.

Does it matter that the site carries the stuff that would be offensive, or do u not care as long as u dont use it.

Again, in the end, do whatever makes u happy.

[MikeWulf]

What I meant by believe is that they honestly think it is all just a bunch of pish posh. Some also believe it is devils controlling your body.

[BobbyS]

I heard one section of the Cathoic church believes hypnosis opens your mind to the devil - presumably they can't believe in demonic possession then, otherwise hypnosis would make no difference.

[MikeWulf]

Don't be a fool! There are no contradictions in religion!

[makidas]

[sandy82]

[MikeWulf]

[cardigan]

Actually a lot of religions use hypnosis in their ceremonies. That is - their ceremonies entrance their participants. Maybe not so much the "mainstream" versions of the catholic church or the protestant ditto, but certainly the minorities out there. For instance: in many religions - or fractions of such - The congregation goes into a massive prayer - sometimes for hours, and then suddenly someone among them is overcome by the Holy Ghost and starts "speaking in tongues". The person will speak absolute gibberish, but is considered by the others in the congregation to be specially blessed - touched by God.

IMHO this is a hypnotic trance brought about by monotonous prayers for a prolonged period.

Another example: at many Mexican religious celebrations, people let themselves be crucified. They feel no pain, and their wounds close up quickly after the ceremony. They were in a trance, clearly.

Stigmata - enduced by a holy trance.

The list goes on.

[sandy82]

[MikeWulf]

Don't forget American Indian drums. That is a really powerful one apparently.

[cardigan]

Hi Sandy.

I did have 3 things in mind. You see - Stigmata and the healing of crucifiction wounds are not the same! Stigmata are wounds resembling the holes supposed to have been driven through the hands and feet of Jesus while on the cross, that suddenly appear on a person - who has not in any way been subjected to any kind of violence or crucifiction. They just appear - supposedly by themselves! Another Stigmata is small wounds approximately around the hairline - wounds resembling the wounds Jesus got from the thorny crown being pressed into his head - but without any external forces making the wounds in the first place. They just appear. I think that these stigmata are the products of trance. Contrary to the film featuring Patricia Arquette, only deeply religious people ever experience Stigmata! (I - for instance - have never experienced it, although I generally consider myself a christian! :P )

Also - as MikeWulf suggests - the American Indian rituals with rhythmic drumming and dancing going on for hours - days - is a very good way of inducing trance. I forgot that one, but thanks for reminding me! I think it was actually Milton Erickson who did a study of Indian rituals and trance dancing (not the modern variety, that one sees at raves!!! - Although this albeit drug-induced dancing has very much to do with a real trance too - only I wouldn't recommend it!). Ericksson was able to tell which indians dancing were in a real trance, and which ones were faking it. But of course - he's the father of modern hypnosis, so of course he would know! Who else?!

Regards - and thanks for the intersting comments!

[makidas]

Speaking of raves, I've noticed a lot of trance music artists inadvertantely (maybe) give there tunes a hypnotic BWGen like sound.

[MikeWulf]

[sandy82]

Cardigan,

Thanks for the helpful and informative reply on the stigmata and the crucifixions. Your description of the stigmata was very good, and the mental image reminded me of a characteristic that is shared by many, perhaps most, Christian denominations. Perhaps the observations may be useful to Phantom_Lonestar as well.

The stigmata reminded me of weeping statues, pieces of the true cross, and other such happenings/memorabilia in the HRCAC. About 10 years ago there was a weeping statue in some small town in, I think, Portugal. An investigation was conducted, and it was discovered that one of the resident clergy was pouring water somewhere in the back of the statue and, intermittently, a drop would appear on the statue's eyes.

There seems to be a tendency for these incredible things to happen in poor, small, rural locations where the congregation is very traditional and lightly educated. Weeping statues and such tend not to be seen in Notre Dame in Paris or Westminster Cathedral in London or in upscale parishes in Milan and Vienna.

I am led to believe that the divergence is not a matter of chance. The better-educated, wealthier, independent-minded parishioners in sophisticated centers won't believe such things, and those that promote such "miracles" know better than to try them out on the discerning.

Maybe there are genuine stigmata. I've seen photographs of them. I would like to have a dermatologist examine stigmata on the body of a Sorbonne professor who says out loud that Benedict XVI is a backward step for the Church.

These differences occur, to a greater or lesser extent, in many denominations. You won't hear the high-decibel fire and brimstone in a Southern Baptist church in the northwestern section of Atlanta or in Houston's River Oaks. There's a big difference in attitude between a Lutheran church in Boestrup and at Holmens or VFK.

The higher the socio-economic and educational levels of the congregation, the fewer the threats and outlandish claims by the clergy.

[makidas]

[johnbohnrevenge]

Seriously, this is getting out of hand... I'm wondering if this should be moved to the Religion forum.

[cardigan]

[sandy82]

[davelowe1977]

[sandy82]

[MikeWulf]

[makidas]

[MikeWulf]

[makidas]

You are not worth my time, in the future however you should do a little research before you spew whatever random bullshit pops into your head. Also, if you try being a little less hostile, you're likely to get a better response.

[davelowe1977]

Tolerence, gentlemen, please!

On the point of the brainwave files, I side with mikewulf. They work by spacially encoding the sound so that it appears to 'rotate' around the head at a certain frequency. The frequency is chosen to match the results of medical studies that have determined that the brain 'works' at differing frequencies depending on mood and state of wakefulness. As an example they may range from high alpha (fast) to deep theta (slow), depending on whether you are highly awake and thinking fast, to deeply asleep. The actual frequency that is considered best suited to helping hypnosis is open to some interpretation, but this is outside the scope of this post. In any case, when presented with a persistant external frequency, the brain eventually synchronises to it.

Mikewulf is correct on two points. Firstly, they will only work with headphones because each ear must only hear the correct channel - left or right - in order to have the desired effect. With speakers there will be too much 'overspill' from one ear to the other - the brain will concentrate on the delay between ears relating to the difference in distance from each ear to each speaker and not on the intended spacial effect.

Secondly, if you have success with the brainwave files, you will subconciously attach the files to the success, much like an hynotic anchor or trigger (akin to cognative behavioural therapy techniques).

If anyone disagrees with what I have written, please respond politely! I fail to see the benefit in turning a disagreement into a slanging match.

[sandy82]

[EMGsKink]

[MikeWulf]

He was wrong. I corrected him. He got shitty and said I was wrong (yet again?). I swore as an exaggeration of my anger. You focused on one word and went on with a rant about some other guy. Nice...
When I know I am right, and someone says I am wrong, it pisses me off...Big deal.

[thephantom]

makidas is completly wrong

BWGen work by using 2 differents frequency, one in each ear.
The rest is just some "cute" things to make it less boring and annoying and to "hide" the tones...
Using an headphone is strongly suggered to not say required, as the stronger the separation, the stronger is the effect. Without headphone, each ear will hear about the same thing, thru there will be no difference between the 2 "channels", cancelling all the effects. Same ting with a mono sound, it will cancel everything and transform it an annoying noise without any effect at all.

Basically, the brain mix those 2 tones, and a third tone is then generated, which is the difference between the 2 tones. For example, a 995hz tone and a 1005hz tone will mix together to make a 10hz tone.
The brain will then try to synchronise on that frequency, thru helping to go in trance.

So MikeWulf was right!

Makidas: you really should do some research before you say shit again! And stop to lie!

[sandy82]

[makidas]

[MikeWulf]

Nice grammar, anyways, I'm speaking from personal experience. I have been using Bwgen for quite awhile. I can go under with it without headpnones, although (like I said) they do help. The stereo effect does help, but is not required. So, go ahead and flame away! You're only making yourself look bad.[/quote]Hey! Ignorant! What is happening is you are going into trance via an anchor...Just like I said before.
Get a clue, man.

[makidas]

I'm not going to argue over something so petty. That's an assumption, assumption's are like assholes, everyone seems to have one. The problem with assumptions is that they are usually incorrect. (I think I may have said that once before.)

[MikeWulf]

[makidas]

I apologize, but I rare to never see any research as the end all. We understand so much, yet so little about how the brain works, how can you honestly say that your findings are based on fact. Not to mention how little research is available on Brainwave Syncs. It is all trial and error at this point. Note, I mean absolutely no disrepect.

[Jack]

Mikewulf: What facts are those?

[MikeWulf]

[sandy82]