Metaphysics

by **makidas** » July 16th, 2005, 1:04 pm

I'd love to hear from any Pagans, Wiccans or Metaphysics oriented people here.

by **VeryGnawty** » July 16th, 2005, 1:56 pm

I'm a pantheist.

But....what would you like to hear?

by **sandy82** » July 16th, 2005, 2:00 pm

by **Zerakis** » July 16th, 2005, 3:33 pm

The astral pulse forums are a great source of info for metaphysics. www.astralpulse.com

by **sandy82** » July 17th, 2005, 1:54 pm

by **loadedkaos** » July 17th, 2005, 8:09 pm

I'm not sure what you expect to hear makidas. But here are some links for those who are interested. Spiral nature is probably the best one if you just want to get some basic info.

http://www.spiralnature.com/
http://www.chaosmagic.com/
http://www.occultforums.com/

by **makidas** » July 17th, 2005, 10:01 pm

I'm not really expecting to hear anything, I was simply looking to meet some like minded people.

by **makidas** » July 17th, 2005, 10:03 pm

Also, here's a pretty comprehensive website Sandy. http://www.crystalinks.com/

by **sandy82** » July 17th, 2005, 10:13 pm

by **makidas** » August 12th, 2005, 8:19 pm

Hi, I was going to try one of those lottery programs from downloads.com. Lotto logic pro to be exact. Anyways I fell asleep punching data in my new comp. When I awoke, there was and still is a beautiful green praying mantis on my screen. Anyone have any insights on what this might represent? I haven't seen a mantis since I was maybe 9 or 10 (now 21), I love these guys, I had him following my mouse cusor a little while ago.

by **sandy82** » August 12th, 2005, 8:36 pm

Makidas, some people have all the luck. You have a green praying mantis on your computer screen. I had a squirrel under the hood of my car, chomping on the electric wires. He did leave me some peanut shells. :roll:

by **adverse6** » August 12th, 2005, 9:22 pm

The entirety of metaphysics is unfounded conjecture - but don't take my word on it; learn about Hume's negative argument on causality for yourself.

by **loadedkaos** » August 12th, 2005, 9:48 pm

by **makidas** » August 12th, 2005, 10:26 pm

by **sandy82** » August 13th, 2005, 10:55 am

by **gurlbidesign** » August 15th, 2005, 7:46 am

Hmm, very non religious here, more of a existstencialist with a liking for the pagan 3 fold rule and their one directive to hurt no one instead of 10 thou shalt nots. But one mans religion is another mans belly laugh as Heinlein once said and I fully support anyones right to rub blue mud in their naval and dance around backwards naked if that is what they need to do.

by **gurlbidesign** » August 15th, 2005, 7:52 am

I woke up this morning and put some metaphysics in a bowl, then I poured milk over them.

by **Ceot** » November 2nd, 2005, 10:36 pm

My gods dont talk to me.
Just expect me to realize the lessons they reprisent.
Then do rite in my life.

Weird since i,m a Satanist.
How the hell did egyptian gods get mixed into this any ways?

Not that I mind.
Haveing the darker Satanists and the brighter Satanist at a party,
Mixed with followers of Bask and all those other pagan gods is.....

Well it makes for a most interesting evening.

by **dgrade** » November 4th, 2005, 9:11 am

Our curiosity with the metaphysical often gets the better of us. It is amazing how much more power we have in our imagination than in our verse.

I have found it to be very rewarding to explore the realms of the metaphysical with a scientific approach. It is a uniquely personal experience though, and you will have to make the exploration on your own. Not even the wickedest man in the world would want a bunch of jackasses running around with free will twisting the nipples of fate.

by **SubmissMe** » November 15th, 2005, 6:31 am

I think we need to apply Ayer's verification principle to this topic.

Or if not, in the words of wittgenstein "Whereof we cannot speak, we must remain silent."

by **hailtheprinceofdarkness** » February 24th, 2006, 1:47 am

Metaphysical? what could you hope to do with that?

I dunno.... Sounds like someone's got an agenda. I don't dabble in metaphysics myself, and i advise you not to either. Only people who have a mentor that they can rely on ever really "get out of the jungle alive." As a general rule, I like to not bother things that could make me drive off a cliff.

by **nuit09** » March 11th, 2006, 3:24 pm

by **PhyllisKRue** » March 11th, 2006, 6:03 pm

Interesting, Interesting...

I would ask, are you guys old enough to have seen Monty Python in the original? Or is this syndication?

Being married to an engineer, I suggest leaving things that are God's to God, and applying Akam's Razor to the rest.

Hugs,
PK

by **SubmissMe** » March 12th, 2006, 10:23 am

No, Hume's name was mentioned in that song and not his rather brilliant view on causality. If you ask really nicely, I'll explain it for you :lol:

by **nuit09** » March 12th, 2006, 11:52 am

by **nuit09** » March 15th, 2006, 3:03 am

Nothing "unreal" exists.

Or put another way any concept which can be expressed exists in some sense of the word in some mode of being. purple unicorns therefore "exist." therefore the following statement is false: 'The "inexpressible thing" does not exist.' because i just named the "inexpressible thing." That which has a name exists.

"nothing" is forbidden. all is permitted. Hail Eris!

by **SubmissMe** » March 15th, 2006, 3:31 pm

That's not what I understand to be Hume's view on causality.

by **nuit09** » March 15th, 2006, 3:39 pm

:lol: No, it wouldn't be...

by **Luperci** » July 29th, 2006, 3:20 pm

by **SubmissMe** » August 3rd, 2006, 9:19 am

So, to sum it up in two words, "Eliminitave Materialism".

I have always found that as somewhat of a get out of jail free card myself. It provides an escape rather than an explaination.

by **Undisclosed** » August 4th, 2006, 4:32 am

I've read a great deal on these metaphysical arts and toyed with a thing or two myself. There are a few things that are credible and many that are not. Most of the effects I see are a result of self-brainwashing. If you believe something will happen, after a while your brain will alter it's perceptions to make it seem real. Of course, it's all in your head, and while that can affect your body, it's not an external manifestation. Hypnosis operates in a similar fashion.

On the other hand, I have no doubt of a spiritual realm having witnessed it's existance myself. My collective family history is full of spiritual events and accounts. It may be possible to interact with this realm, I find it unlikely due to the mallebility of perception. There's often no way to tell if it's in your head or not.

Of course, someone here who is suitably adept may prove me wrong, and I welcome them to try. You know, send a spirit to visit, disturb my thoughts, help me on my upcoming exams, etc... :lol: Honestly, I don't think anything will occur.

by **Jacara** » August 6th, 2006, 6:32 pm

by **Alikava** » October 1st, 2006, 3:15 pm

I am in agreence with most of the people posting. I for one have found Metaphysics to be very real. And though I have not read up on Hume(yet) I will say that there is still many things that science cannot explain. I for one find that I can transfer my energy into another person to aid in the healing process. Say what you will about that, but to clarify, Not all of the people I have helped knew I was trying to aid in healing so it was not a psycolojical thing. All the subject knew was that I put my hand on the injury and the pain went away.

by **yaar** » January 4th, 2008, 2:22 am

I think you may have a faulty view of metaphysics here. Metaphysics is, by definition, the philosophical study of existence and being. then again, you may be using a different definition I don't know of, or using it in a context I missed.

by **phryne** » October 17th, 2010, 3:36 am

i'm a buddhist.

all is mind.

by **HotCurves** » October 26th, 2010, 8:42 pm

I see this subject was brought up long ago, but I'll go ahead and give my two cents worth.

Metaphysics examines the nature of reality, including the relationship between mind and matter. Personally, I've had my own interesting experiences regarding mind/matter connections. Sometimes I have been able to purposely bring about these connections through intention, other times it has been something that just "comes over me."

Quick examples:
Playing a poker game with 5 players, asking them to lay their cards face down as I ran my left hand over all the cards and telling each and every one of the other players exactly what their cards were, both number or face plus the color or suit. They didn't play with me much longer.

Watching a brand new episode of "Biggest Loser" and stating out loud for the record each and every players amount of weight loss for that week before the show aired the results, being incorrect by one pound with only one of the players.

Accessing the healing energy that anyone can learn to access and influencing other's energies measurably, including immediate mending of a client's broken bone.

Having what I now refer to as one of my "knowings" and realizing I could communicate with another person's mind, giving mental commands to an unsuspecting co-worker. I had him doing out of the ordinary things until he looked so confused about his behavior and got so upset with himself that he looked like he was about to have a meltdown and wanted to leave work early. (I realize this can be viewed as unethical, but I had to test it out multiple times in multiple ways without the person knowing, so that I could be certain I wasn't giving him any outside influence and that this was real.)

Many other verified experiences in telepathic communication with people both in the room with me as well as out of state.

I realize no one here knows me from Adam, so it is still just the word of a stranger, but do a little reading on such things then give these things a try yourself and maybe you will find you have a new talent to develop. Not understanding the science behind how it works doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

by **stephiebaby** » October 31st, 2010, 4:23 am

"but do a little reading on such things then give these things a try yourself and maybe you will find you have a new talent to develop. Not understanding the science behind how it works doesn't mean it doesn't exist."

Yes do a little reading, and not just from believers. You will find that no one has been uble to prove thier superpowers even exist. Forget about not understanding the science behind it, they have never been able to prove the existence of such things.
From your claims it should be easy for you to prove your "abilities". There is a lot of money you could win, and you could finally bring respectability to these "abilities".

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