Anyone have experience with psycadelics and hypno files?

[Mino]

I was thinking of taking some magic mushrooms/magic truffles/sclerotia/whatever before listening to an MP3.

I'm expecting that I will hallucinate the file working 100% and experience the description fully as if it was real life. And I've read reports that mushrooms increase susceptibility as well.

Has anyone had any experience with drugs and hypnosis?

Please do not fill this thread with opinions and arguments regarding drug use. I just want this thread to be used for sharing experiences and advice.

[zzzzz]

and, did it go well?

[DKaiser]

Well, I don't have much on the psychedelic side, but I have found that low doses of DXM(or the hangover of normal doses) is a great body relaxant, for people who have chronic pain and such that interfere with trance. As for higher doses, I tried it back when I wasn't as good at trancing(still getting there, honestly), so the fact I didn't get much from it shouldn't be taken as a sign that nothing comes of it, more a note to my inexperience.

Still, in theory it should help. If you're a good enough trancer to let the hypnotist guide your train of thought and imagination, then they should be able to continue doing so even in an altered state. Not sure how this would hold up with deliriants, as they might interfere with that, but it is just speculation.

General Disclaimer of Doom: Drugs should be used responsibly. If you decide to try something because of this post, that's your choice, and your responsibility. Be safe and sane, just like with hypnosis in general.

[sleepyjosh]

You should do some research into the CIA's experiments, codenamed Mk-ULTRA. Apparently they did quite a bit of work in the 60s or 70s trying to use LSD and other hallucinogens as "mind-control" agents (in combination with other conditioning techniques, like hypnosis).

You're bound to find as much insane conspiracy theory as actual fact, but if you can manage to separate the wheat from the chaff, you may just get the answers you're looking for.

[wmm9]

I'd recommend checking out:
http://www.hypnosisandsuggestion.org/modification-of-suggestibility.html

It looks like psilocybin (mushrooms) are not very effective at increasing it, and apparently cannabis is the most effective.

Sadly, they have no information on anything legally obtainable, which is the stuff I stick to.

As for DXM, I find that when it's in full effect, it's really difficult to 'do' much, like listen to hypnosis. You find yourself not really interested in doing anything. By the time I was in the mood on the comedown to try it, I found it helped, but not by a lot.

[DKaiser]

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[BiffWallop]

Back in the day I had a lot of experience with LSD, mushrooms and other psyco-active drugs. There is a difference between being tranced and being suggestable. On acid you are suggestable whether you trance or not. Also trancing is much easier. On my first mescalin trip I was surprised that it didn't involve great visuals. Other times it did. If you want to read about mushrooms instead, then start with Terence McKenna. If you want to know about LSD experience read "The Electric Koolaide Acid Test" by Tom Wolf. I'm sure you will enjoy your trip. "Bon Voyaage"

[slutinmyhead]

I'm not sure I'd call it being hypnotized, but I have enjoyed listening to some of these files on mdma. Sort of felt like the hypnotist's voice was making love to me on some sort of psychic level.

[autumnheart]

I highly recommend not doing this.

Psychedelics are about the experience and the change in perception. Whats the fucking point of taking a drug that changes your perception of external reality and then listen to an audio file which tries to control your perception.

Your settings yourself up for a bad trip if you try this.

Just like how you always hear BDSM people tout safe and sane, the two things to remember with drugs are set and setting. Do it in a place where you are comfortable and do it in the right state of mind.

If you just jump into taking psychedelics without fully understanding what the power of these substances are then you are taking an enormous risk. being informed on the drugs and what they do can much better prepare you for the experience and allow you to actually just go with it.

There is a reason why they call it a trip. Because you are going on a trip, you just go along with it, no need to force you mind into a narrow view. Its possible have this information overload effect where your brain essentially gives you the middle finger and you'll be living a nightmare for the next 6 hours.

If you want my advice, I'd pop in some nature documentaries, some of your favorite munchies and some good music, and if the weather isn't shitty where you are, go outside! Nature is awesome when tripping.

[sarnoga]

[AFA]

While they aren't really "Psychedelics" (or at least they aren't technically illegal) do you think diazepam (valium) and/or hydrocodone would have any effect if one or both were taken before trying to go into trance?

[sarnoga]

[DKaiser]

[mindphuk]

I once listened to a file while on Cannabis. And well, it was nice relaxing and deep but not really helpful. Maybe the reason is how I react on THC: my thoughts tend to go really wild.

A brief summary: I noticed occassionally that the suggestions in the file like "your body becomes heavy and warm" did work really well I felt it like 10 times stronger than normal. But at the end I remember that I while listening constantly drifted off with the thoughts imagining and fantasizing anything but not what's said in the file. Only when I came back focussing on the voice I noticed said 10 time stronger effect of what was said - but only while under. After wakeup I tried the posthypnotic things and it had no effect at all.

Oh and I just remembered that I once tried a small piece of valium and then being hypnotized. Well, I fell asleep deeply for 1.5hours but did not become hypnotized. (I did not wake on the wakener and no suggestions stood effective.)