The forced gay success thread...

[Ryan83]

[Ryan83]

Ok, forget what I said earlier. I'm going to fight this thing to the bitter end. I will get back to who I was or I will die in the process.

[Alien4420]

I guess what I'd ask is what's wrong with the way you are now?

I'm not saying that you shouldn't go back. But, if you can't bring yourself to listen to Deprogram All or have a hypnotist remove the file, why not make the best of it? Have fun with some new experiences?

Not that I haven't been on the roller coaster myself, in fact I decided to listen to Deprogram All today (because of Stroke Sissy, not CFG). Instead I ended up listening to Stroke Sissy, CFG, *and* a Catgirl file. Hopeless, no? I hadn't been listening to any of them but the suggestion to listen kicked in and I told myself I was going to listen to them just once more and then I'd listen to Deprogram All tomorrow. You have to laugh.

I think I protect myself by telling myself that I'll eventually wiggle free. And who knows, I may, the bi suggestion in the Catgirl file had me briefly interested in women again. But if not, I tell myself I'll kick back and enjoy whatever I am.

[catgirlatheart]

[Ryan83]

[Alien4420]

[Alien4420]

[ftslave67]

Ryan, I am glad to hear that you have a strong inclination to follow you're moral code and I have a lot of respect for that. I'm sorry to hear that you feel this experience has "ruined your life". Maybe you should just think of it as a side-trip on the journey of life, an adventure?

Something made you want to listen initially, right? Or was it forced on you or were you tricked into it? I mean, the description in the download section, is fairly accurate, no? Maybe you just wanted to see what it would be like & don't want it anymore? It's good that you know that, then--you've learned something about yourself. Good advice from Alien about "deprogram all", but I think in most cases the effects would generally wear off anyway, after a couple of weeks or so, if you didn't listen to the file anymore.

Some people classify themselves as "bi" or even "questioning". Kinsey created a six-degree scale from totally hetero to totally homosexual. And most people he interviewed fell somewhere in-between.

I guess, like Alien, I'm a little concerned that you seem to be freaked out about all this. I think you should trust yourself & things will work out in the end. Get counseling if you need it, please.

[Alien4420]

[dottie]

[ftslave67]

Homosexuality is not a "big weight around one's neck"--that is ridiculous, and defamatory. Not being true to yourself or denying your feelings or your nature is the real big weight.

[dottie]

[Jeshi]

[ftslave67]

Are you gay, Dotty? Yes, there are trials & tribulations, just like "normal" people have, but there are also blessings & love & community, special gifts, etc. I just think the whole notion that it's a big millstone around one's neck is offensive. I know straight guys that have difficulties meeting someone; just because there's a larger pool doesn't necessarily make it any easier, only perhaps statistically.

[Jeshi]

[ftslave67]

Jeshi--Even once you realize the problem is them, not you?

[Alien4420]

Been musing on this conversation, because while I had the same negative reaction to the millstone remark that you did I also have to acknowledge that there's some truth in it.

There are practical consequences to being gay -- fading rapidly, to be sure, but a real consideration if you don't live in a gay-friendly place. People still lose their families, get kicked out the military, face denial of death benefits, and so forth.

But I think most of us can get beyond those problems. For me, anyway, it's harder to isolate yourself from the prejudices of others. We seem to have evolved to be extremely sensitive to social pressure, to internalize rejection by those around us.

I've always envied those who don't care what others think, just go their own way thinking 'If you don't like it, tough." Unfortunately, I'm not one of them. I've always marched to a different drummer, but it seems to me that I've paid a fairly high emotional price over the years for doing so, either because of sensitivity to social rejection or the denial of self that comes about when you give in to pressure and conform.

Mistress Catgirl does a great job dealing with social rejection in her feminization files, in fact, she makes you revel in it. I don't know of anything comparable for Forced Gay, but I think it could be useful, because, after all, where prejudice doesn't result in substantive harm like the denial of a job opportunity, the harm is in your head. That doesn't make it any less real or painful, but it does mean that it's amenable to corrective suggestion, as the loss of a job is not.

In that context, I'd like to clarify what I tried to say to Ryan. I wasn't suggesting that he choose to become or remain gay -- that's entirely up to him and I accept and understand and to some extent share his reservations. Rather, the point I was trying to make was that you have to make the best of the opportunities with which life presents you. Because if you beat yourself up too much, you're going to do more damage to your happiness and well-being than any curse file could.

It's important to remember that despite all the social prejudice, lots of gay guys are happy being what they are. Just look at how happy Dave is. Talk of millstones and pressure to change back really do no good. The important thing to keep in mind is that you can be happy whatever your orientation, as long as you don't internalize the prejudices of others.

[ftslave67]

Good post, Alien. You know I've had my difficulties, but I don't know that I wouldn't have had others had I been "straight". We all have our "cross to bear".

[dottie]

[brconfused]

I find this to be quite an interesting thread. I understand the pull of listening to this file. I have listened to it, be it only twice. However, I found that I am too ADD to actually get much out of it. I also have listened to CFS simply because I can not figure out what I want.... Anyway. I am glad some people are having success with the file.

[Alien4420]

Those two files will fight one another! I suggest you make your choice first, listen second . . .

[angelcraves]

I stopped listening to this file a long time ago, but the effects seem to have grown, i havent listened, and i am resisting listening.
occasionally i will look at a gay pic and see if i get aroused, never happens, until today.
just saw some pics, and instant arousal and nearly exploded.
i was shocked by how quickly i was aroused.

a question now, if you dont feel anything when looking at a guys face then surely that must mean you arent gay?

i don't find men handsome or attractive, just seems to be the neck down, curious.

[Alien4420]

[Ryan83]

I feel the same way. I never liked guy's faces at ALL- not even the body- just the cock. But god damn do I love cock now. Just typing this out is making me rock hard.

But I digress.

It wasn't until recently that I saw a guy's face that I actually liked- and there's only been one, maybe two. I don't know if that means something has changed or not. I still am not into the body (other than the aforementioned part). So, I don't know.

On the plus side, I am getting closer and closer to just accepting being gay. So...who knows? Not sure if I'm going to fight this any more.

[Alien4420]

[ftslave67]

Maybe the suggestions in the file are more geared toward men's bodies.

Or maybe that's just the last part of your sexual repression to be eliminated.

As a "golf-star" gay, I was sort of attracted to women's faces & personalities when I was younger, but it was always the guys that I fantasized about, including their faces!

[atan]

I'm new here and I've also been reading all the threads on the CFG. I really want to give this a try.

It does intrigue me and it seems like pretty much everyone who has tried it has worked.

Has there been anyone out there that it hasn't made a change for?

Has anyone changed their mind try the removal file from EMG?

[Alien4420]

I only know of one guy for whom it hasn't worked, he just popped out of trance the first time he listened. Which will happen with any suggestion if you have a really deep-seated objection. But that's of the people who have posted here, of course.

As to changing back, several guys have done it using Curse Forced Straight, one guy I think ended up bi and the rest went back to being straight. There's also EMG's Deprogram All which removes the effects of his files. But the longer you listen the less you'll want to go back and the harder it will be. I love this filem but you're definitely playing on the edge here, after a few months, you'll be gay and most of your thoughts and desires will be in that direction. I'm listening to a file now that's making my attraction to women come back, and it's working, but I'm aiming for bi -- I like being gay and I don't want to lose my attraction to men. I suspect that if it weren't for social pressure I wouldn't even bother.

[atan]

Well, I don't think I'd have a deep objection, I've always been a bit curious. That's why I was thinking about giving it a try. From reading everyone's accounts, it seems like everyone goes through the stages of thinking it isn't doing anything, to a stage of shock or denial that changes are beginning, to acceptance and enjoyment of where you're at. Does that soudn about right?

So do you think it is the longer you go with the file, the less you want to "remove" it? How often are you listening to it?

[Alien4420]

[atan]

Well, I decided to go ahead and give CFG a try. So we'll see what happens.

[ftslave67]

There's also quite a few bisexual files here in case you don't want to "go all the way". You can do a search.

[Alien4420]

I didn't know about Curse Forced Bi. Just downloaded it, I think I'm going to give it a try . . .

[atan]

Well, just a quick update, I've been using CFG since Monday, and boy it is addictive. I think I've listend to it 12 times since then, 4 times today. I really makes me feel relaxed and good after listening to it.

At first, I didn't think it was doing anything, other than making me want to listen to it over and over.

However, today I felt different, I noticed that I was starting to look at guys differently, I think I was checking them out. Do you think it is possible that it has already had this much of an affect on me so soon?

[ftslave67]

If you're listening that much, it must be something you want to experience on some level, so yeah, it is going to happen. As for "checking out guys", you don't even really have to be gay to do that! :)

[Alien4420]

[atan]

[angelcraves]

i dont think i have even listened to it twelve times.. but what an effect.. all the time resisting listening again.
all sorts of thoughts more about the file than anything else.

[Alien4420]

[pbow2010]

I have been lisitening to the CFG and other gay files for over a year now. I was completely straight and just got into it out of curiosity not really believing in it all. But I got drawn in and found myself needing to listen, again and again. And I am being completely honest when I tell you this, IT WORKS whether you want it to or not and I am really not very happy with myself for doing this. I am no longer able to become arouse by females at all and I haven't dated for a long time. I have not yet ventured out into the world of a real gay sexual experience but all of my fantasies are about are about men now. I am trying to work up the courage to just accept all this and take the leap into a real gay relationship. On one hand I wish I had never done this as it has made my life much more complicated than it was before but on the other hand I have no desire nor do I think I am even capable of ever transforming back. The change is a permanant one just like the file says, "it can't be reversed or undone." I strongly suggest that you don't tamper with this. I know that I am stuck with this change and I am just hoping that I can find peace and happiness with it (maybe someone could create a file for that) but if I had it to do do over again I would have avoided this file like the plague.

[ftslave67]

Pbow, don't be too hard on yourself. It's my opinion (and some others will disagree) that someone who wants to listen to this file probably has more than an idle curiosity. So maybe you had some buried desire to at least see what it is like to be with a man. And the hypnosis helps you by removing the "guilt" or whatever is blocking it, and making you feel like you're being controlled or manipulated. Something to think about, anyway.

You could always stop listening for a while, or use a curse removal file, if you feel that it's necessary, and see what happens with your desires. If it really gets you down, that is. If not, I would just enjoy it. Depends on how much it is complicating your life, I guess. Hope everything works out for you.

[Alien4420]

Ptow,

I don't think that can be emphasized enough. This file does what it says it's going to do. It's for people who want to be gay, or want to be forced to be gay and are OK with the consequences. It is not true that hypnosis can't make you do something against your will. It is not true that your sexuality can't be changed, or that it can only be changed to something for which you secretly yearn.

I do think, at least I think it's true in my case, that 90% of the problem with Forced Gay is internalized social pressure. Unless you're in the army or your parents are fundamentalists or something, being gay isn't a practical problem these days. I've been trying to deal with that with some suggestions in a file I made myself but so far they've been only partially successful, I still feel pressure to change back even though I don't really want to.

I guess -- I'm not going to try much longer to get my attraction to women back. Actually, I've already managed to do that, but I can't get rid of the suggestions that keep you from having sex with women and I can't seem to listen to a straightness file and now it seems Curse Forced Bi, which I was all hot to listen to yesterday. So I feel like I'm getting to the point where I say OK, I'm going to give it one last try and if that doesn't work I'm just going to accept it and focus on being happy as a gay guy.

[Alien4420]

[ftslave67]

Alien, I wish you much happiness either way.

Internal or external, there is a lot of societal pressure to not be gay. We are bombarded with it every day.

[Alien4420]

Thanks, you're not kidding! And really, that's what it amounts to, all that pressure. The being gay part itself is fine.

[atan]

I think it might be easier said than done when it comes to letting the effects wear off. What makes this file different from other "curse" files, from what I can tell is that in the script, it is addictive, and that if you try to "escape" it compells you to listen to it again and again, further enforcing it. So if you are consciously trying to stop listening to the file to try to "escape" from it, you'll find yourself listening to it.

I've been listening to this file for the past week or so and I'd have to say that it works and I can feel myself changing. Although honestly, I am finding I'm liking the changes and am starting to embrace being gay. Although there is a reverse file out there, I'm not sure if I want to use it now.

One piece of advice for anyone contemplating listening to this file, be absolutely 100% sure that you want this to happen, because listening to the file just once can have you in its grips and by the time you notice it has had an effect on you, it'll be a hard, if not impossible, road back.

[hypnoslave85]

I HAVENT LISTENED TO CFG 4 A FEW MONTHS AS I HAD LOST MY MP3 PLAYER WHICH HAD CFG ON IT AND MY COMPUTER HAD PACKED UP ON ME SO I COULD'NT LISTEN TO THE COPY OF THE FILE I HAD SAVED TO MY HARD DRIVE. AND FOUND THAT THE EFFECTS BEGAN TO WEAR OFF AFTER A MONTH AND A HALF OR SO OF NOT LISTENING DOSE THIS I HAD NOT BEEN LISTEN ING TO IT LONG ENOUGH 4 APERMANT CHANGE?

BUT THE URGE TO RE-DOWNLOAD IT AND LISTEN TO IT AGAIN NOW THAT MY COMPUTER HAS BEEN FIXD HAS BEEN GROWING STRONGER 4 A COUPLE A WEEKS NOW

HYPNOSLAVE85
8)

[Ryan83]

[blahblah2]

Has anyone snared by this file considered seeing a professional hypnotist? I feel like that might be a productive avenue.

[Alien4420]

I'm sure you're right, any suggestion can be removed. However, Forced Gay can make it impossible to take that step, or for that matter to listen to the undo files on this site or Curse Forced Straight, which several guys have used successfully to reverse the effects of Curse Forced Gay.