Should subliminals be secret?

[Starmaster]

Basically, do subliminals lose their effectiveness if you consciously know what the message in them is? I'm wondering because I am of course quite curious about the messages I am listening to, and the descriptions of the files never seem to say.

[MN_FriendlyGuy]

[Starmaster]

But isn't the entire premise of subliminal messages that it is your subconscious that somehow hears and "understands" the message? If so then this is not analogous to the baby not understanding a horn, since it is aware, but does not understand, instead of not being aware, but understanding. So I guess I fail to see how this applies. :?

[MN_FriendlyGuy]

[iamli3]

even im lost with this one

if the subliminal random jumbled sound effect can be herd and "decoded" by the sub consious mind to say something like "get horny" , and your consious mind new that that random jumbled sound effect was supposed to give that message to your sub , then the effectiveness would vary on what you con would want?
because it knowing what the message is supposed to be is irelevent from it going to your sub , cause other wise they wouldn't have any effect if you con didn't know
but if your con didn't like the message (for some reason i feel really stupid writing this and for good reason , im trying to desifer a hypnosis riddle (which both of those i already suck at emeansly) with not even having any knowledge of my own about this and im just trying to use logical deduction but quite frankly something obvious i figured out yesterday (which i havn't given any relavent thought into btw so don't lash out at me if im being stupid already) is that everything is a system , a proccess , logic can figue things out for you in the system , but logic is useless with out knowledge , if you dont have pre-exsisting knowledge of the rules of the system and how it works your logic will have no giude lines to make deductions from , which would be the scenario im in with this right now) it could try to say no maybe having a lesser effect from it?
but if you were aware of the message on both levels and wanted it then it would work almost twice as well depending on your view of the sound and it's context , cause i don't think the consious mind would emediatly relate a buzzing sound with arousal , but if the message got through to you sub then your con could react that way on a con level with your sub backing it telling it "ya thats correct that meens that"......

idk how did i do?............