The forced gay success thread...

by **ftslave67** » July 26th, 2009, 6:58 am

Jeshi--I guess to me it's somewhat unimportant what caused it--I'm gay, always have been, pretty much a "Kinsey 6". I've accepted it since I was 23 (49 now, grew up Catholic). It's hard to be an objective observer of your own mind--I've always had thoughts about guys since about 6th grade. I also know that I had some unusual/difficult things happen to me while growing up (not abuse, thankfully, but some slightly traumatic experiences).

I don't believe, BTW, that even if homosexuality were partly environmental that that would mean it could or should be changed.

I hadn't heard about the study you mentioned, do you have a name or reference? I'd be interested in reading it. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

by **Alien4420** » July 26th, 2009, 7:52 am

by **Alien4420** » July 26th, 2009, 7:55 am

by **Dave564** » July 26th, 2009, 12:08 pm

Well I just got back from luke's, feeling exhausted but just so good, I stayed over on sat night and it was just the most amazing weekend.

I have to say I've been doing a LOT of thinking but right now I really do feel gay, more than I ever have in my entire life - it's always felt like a tendency before but now it feels overwhelming, like 100% full homosexuality, I;ve never felt like this before in my entire life, not for a single moment - when I'm with Luke he just does something to me I can not describe, but it's like every turn on I've ever had magnified so much - the kissing and touching is so good and it gets kinkier every weekend but above all I'm starting to really miss him the time I'm away - I think I'm falling in love.

by **Alien4420** » July 26th, 2009, 12:30 pm

by **ftslave67** » July 26th, 2009, 12:41 pm

Good for you, Dave! You seem like such a great guy & I wish you all the happiness in the world!

by **Dave564** » July 26th, 2009, 12:46 pm

thanks thanks guys, can i pm you or do you have msn or something?

by **ftslave67** » July 26th, 2009, 12:50 pm

Alien, I did find an article in Discover magazine from 2007. There's at least one scientist who explains the "50%" by certain genes being "switched off, or methylated--that's his hypothesis. I guess there are other traits which are not necessarily the same in identical twins, like eye color and fingerprints. Supposedly the "switch on or off" factor is not directly inherited.

http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jun/born-gay

I would say, from my knowledge, that it is not universally accepted in the scientific community that homosexuality is 100% genetic and/or hormonal--i.e. it hasn't been proven positively. There is strong evidence that genetics is a factor. Otherwise, it would be much less than 50%, no? I would ask would or should it change anything if you knew that it was 100% genetic?

by **Alien4420** » July 26th, 2009, 5:10 pm

by **Jeshi** » July 27th, 2009, 1:24 am

by **Alien4420** » July 27th, 2009, 8:52 am

by **ftslave67** » July 27th, 2009, 12:40 pm

I guess we're a little off-topic (partly my fault), but its great that we can have an interesting discussion and maintain civility here. You are all Very Good Boys!

by **Alien4420** » July 27th, 2009, 1:47 pm

by **cisvestite** » July 27th, 2009, 7:38 pm

by **ftslave67** » July 28th, 2009, 6:01 am

Alien, since the "program" tells you that it's a curse, can't be removed, etc, then maybe that thought comes up in your head when you are "trying" to get aroused by women. Do you *want* to go back? If you do, I have no doubt that you can do it, but it may take a while and you may have to "just let it happen"--i.e., not "try". Sooner or later, if you don't obsess about sex--men or women--I think you will find your natural sexuality reasserting itself. Also you could try laying off the hypnosis for a while :D

by **Alien4420** » July 28th, 2009, 10:41 am

by **Alien4420** » July 28th, 2009, 11:49 am

by **ftslave67** » July 29th, 2009, 6:44 am

Alien, you seem like a very thoughtful guy--the man or woman lucky enough to win your heart is going to be very lucky! Maybe you'll decide to "see what it's like" to be with another man--it happens, a lot from what I read, even without hypnosis. Maybe you'll like it, maybe not. Or maybe you'll meet a nice girl and she'll captivate your attention so that you can't think about anything else. There are a lot of possiblities.

by **Alien4420** » July 29th, 2009, 3:19 pm

by **xxxlatexloverxxx** » July 30th, 2009, 12:50 am

about the post where children with older brothers have a higher chance of being gay: I saw somewhere that the female body recognizes the male foetus as an foreign substance which must therefore be purged from the body. As the woman has more male children, her antibodies develop stronger and stronger defenses against male foetuses which results in the emasculation of the baby about to be born.

by **Alien4420** » July 30th, 2009, 6:03 am

by **ftslave67** » July 30th, 2009, 6:17 am

Alien--Geez, 20 lbs is nothing--you know you can lose that if you want to, and be healthier, but you know, no one's perfect! Even at 20 lbs overweight, you're still in better shape than about 80% of the population! I lost 25 lbs a couple years back and feel better--more energy. You can probably lose 5 in a week, then 1 or 2 a week, slow & steady is best. I think meditation & really paying attention to what I eat helps me keep it off.

Yeah, I think you are right about young people discovering they are gay. They say you have to "come out" to yourself first, and it's a process--takes some getting used to. I probably said this before, but that didn't happen for me until I was 23. And for some, it is even later in life. One thing is, you don't ever HAVE to tell anyone you don't want to. You don't want to hear about straight friends' sex lives, so why should they care about yours?

I think you said a while back that you had a live session which gave you some negative suggestions about "gay feelings"? Do you think that could be causing you some anxiety? Maybe you can just think about what those suggestions were, and decide that they "don't fit"/don't work for you/don't apply to you right now?

by **Alien4420** » July 30th, 2009, 9:00 am

by **ftslave67** » July 30th, 2009, 11:40 am

you know, just because homosexuality isn't "socially accepted" (and it is becoming more and more acceptable as people "evolve" and realize it is not a choice), doesn't mean it is wrong or wrong for you. Where I live, being a Michigan fan is not "socially acceptable", lol :D . Maybe you should focus on your attraction to a particular *person*, whether male or female, and not so much an *ideal* or generic man or woman. There are people who are bisexual, who feel attraction to both sexes. You can meet new people and decide who you are attracted to. Maybe assume you're bi until you feel strongly otherwise?

by **Alien4420** » July 30th, 2009, 12:23 pm

by **ftslave67** » July 30th, 2009, 4:23 pm

Seeing how you've listened to the file a bunch, and it has suggestions to get aroused, I'm not surprised you would get aroused reading it! I think for any guy, that's not a difficult suggestion to follow (getting aroused), since it's so pleasurable.

Sorry to hear you're so isolated--feel free to PM me on here, or I'll give you a YM ID & we could chat if you want.

by **Alien4420** » July 31st, 2009, 7:34 am

by **ftslave67** » July 31st, 2009, 2:52 pm

"cede control to EMG"--or to your subconscious?

the feeling of letting go is very sexy--that's why sometimes this hypnosis stuff can't get you more aroused than you can make yourself manually! and your subconscious or id or whatever doesn't care about convention or what right or wrong, it just wants to prolong, extend and increase the good feelings and submit to them.

by **Jeshi** » August 2nd, 2009, 12:45 am

What are these "lite" files I keep seeing mentioned?
They aren't on the files page.

by **Alien4420** » August 2nd, 2009, 6:00 am

by **Alien4420** » August 2nd, 2009, 6:09 am

by **Jeshi** » August 4th, 2009, 12:45 am

I just thought of something interesting.
Curse force gay has the suggestion "When you try to have sex with a woman you will wish she had a cock" and Curse Cock makes it so whenever you see a naked woman you will believe she has a cock, it doesn't change your sexual preference you just believe that woman have cocks when you see them.

Thus, your wishing that the woman had a cock is granted by curse cocks making you think she has one!

Maybe one of the people trying to fight CFG could use that strategy? XD

by **Alien4420** » August 4th, 2009, 12:10 pm

by **Route42** » August 10th, 2009, 2:05 am

I've been using this file for a while now... most of the summer, maybe? With slight but not really noticeable effects. Enough to get on google image search and experience some new sensations while searching for guys and to enjoy gay erotic literature online (asstr ftw)... but nothing to dethrone any attraction to females while out and about and no crushes on guys or anything like that.

However, the past week has seen some interesting developments. First of all, I found a picture of a guy that just dazzled me. I kept it in a separate tab in my browser for a couple of days before I had to shut off my computer. (Wish I could remember how I found it, actually. Would enjoy referring back to it.) Around this time I noticed as well that fantasizing about physical contact with a guy was much more pleasurable than fantasizing about said contact with a girl. Well, over the weekend I met a bunch of new people, and tonight as I was thinking about this one guy it suddenly hit me blindside in the gut how appealing he was. I'm going to mark it as my first guy crush. Probably won't last... nor would I really want it to with this specific guy. But still a rather landmark event none the less.

by **ftslave67** » August 10th, 2009, 5:36 am

Route--I think sometimes it takes time. Depends on how "motivated" you are--how bad you want it. If you listen every day, I don't think it will take long!

by **Alien4420** » August 10th, 2009, 3:56 pm

Yeah, what ftslave said . . . if you listen daily things should start happening quickly at this point.

by **AlanH26** » August 23rd, 2009, 9:47 am

So how are you getting on with it Dave? Are you still listening to the file and still seeing that man? Genuinely curious as to how you're getting on and whether you'd class yourself as gay yet.

by **Dave564** » September 26th, 2009, 6:00 am

Hello everyone, wow well it's been a long while since I came on the website, the reason why I stopped posting is that Luke, the guy I met through the website had decided he'd rather I didn't go into every single detail of our private lives on a public forum - so I wanted to respect his wishes!

So I guess I should give an update, simply put I now feel completely homosexual, I'm in love with Luke and I plan to move in with him in just under 2 weeks time.

I can't ever imagine being straight, I have absolutely no feelings or interest in women and it's really difficult remembering how it felt to care about women because right now they aren't doing anything for me whatsoever.

Since our first meet, I've practically lived at Luke's every weekend since, and only recently I've decided to become his boyfriend, he makes me feel utterly amazing.

Quite a few things have changed, we go to the gym regularly now and on friday nights we occasionally go clubbing - something I'd never have done - he's taught me how to dance and have fun at clubs and things like that.

I dress quite differently when we're together and when we go out at night, he's definitely kinda gotten me into a new style but it feels normal now and I love it, also my taste in music has completely changed - I'm now totally into club and dance music - it feels fabulous to listen and dance to, I sold off my entire old music collection at a second hand shop last week!

On very specific occasions I've been out "gay" in public with him and it's felt amazing, once I've moved in we're going to discuss about how I should come out to everyone full-time, so I can dress and do what I like whenever I want, Ive been looking forward to it for months.

so that's basically it!

Oh yeah once I'm out of the closet I'm considering going blonde :)

by **PeppermintT** » September 26th, 2009, 8:13 am

Thats certainly an impressive change in 3 or 4 months. Congratulations! :)

by **Alien4420** » September 26th, 2009, 1:11 pm

Blond is good. :-)

by **ftslave67** » September 26th, 2009, 2:28 pm

Blonde?!--dead giveaway! :D

by **OutofTowner** » September 26th, 2009, 11:44 pm

I fully understand why someone who was struggling with their bi or homosexuality might try this. But why do straight guys listen if it says it will force you gay? The title isn't a dead giveaway?

I just don't understand it.

I have to admit that I'm vaguely interested in a "I could totally resist that" kinda way. But why risk it?

by **boomsmee** » September 27th, 2009, 2:42 am

I tried listening to it a couple years ago because at the time I wasnt happy with my lack of success in the dating scene, and I felt that this file could open up new options for me. However, I wasnt able to trance to this file, snapping out of trance within a few minutes after the induction finished.

by **ftslave67** » September 27th, 2009, 6:23 am

OutOfTowner--why, indeed?

Maybe some guys are "bi-curious" or sublimating their feelings for other men, and this file, by making it seem coerced, removes some of the mental barriers.

Also. some people are attracted to or excited by risk-taking. So they listen. And they get hooked.

by **Alien4420** » September 27th, 2009, 7:47 am

Also, a couple of guys listened because their girlfriends got them to on a dare. Some guys have a hypnofetish and are turned on by the idea of being transformed. And some guys get led here by other files, a lot of feminization files have suggestions about sex with men and when a file makes you want to do something you can suddenly find yourself wanting to listen to files that reinforce that.

Plus, a lot of guys don't take these files seriously. They don't believe in hypnosis and want to prove that it doesn't work. Maybe they've tried other files and found as I had that the effects were only partial, or could be thrown off/wore off. But these curse files are stronger stuff. I know that when I was listening, I didn't like the suggestions about not being able to have sex with women but I figured I could just listen to another file later and reverse them.

by **Alien4420** » September 27th, 2009, 7:50 am

by **hypnoslave85** » September 27th, 2009, 10:35 am

I think that of us who listened to this file thought they colud resist the affects of listening to the cfg file. I listened to it thinking that it would'nt work so i had nothing to lose boy was i wrong and i admit that i have a hypnofetish and find the thought of being changed against my will a big turn on. Iam really close to coming out

by **PeppermintT** » September 27th, 2009, 11:48 am

I listened to the file as a reinforcement to the feminization files I was listening to at the time. I stopped listening to those files some time ago as I am trying to escape that particular fetish but still sometimes listen to CFG as it is very addictive. I don't intend to listen again though as I have issues with some of the suggestions eg. the humiliation aspect. Has anyone tried Sarnoga's "forever gay" file?

by **sarnoga** » September 27th, 2009, 3:09 pm

by **OutofTowner** » September 28th, 2009, 8:11 am

The forced gay success thread...

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