Why the against button?

[BillionSix]

I noticed that a lot of files get votes against them. Why do this?
If I like a file, I vote for it. I would only vote against it if the file seems dangerous.
Even if I don't care for the file, other people might enjoy it, so I just leave it alone.

Just wondering.

Brian

[PieGirl]

I have the exact same thoughts as you. I see it as quite malicious and just plain inconsiderate when people shoot other files down... I don't know what it does for them. I imagine there's some kind of Haha-im-ruining your chances satisfaction.

Here, I already made a thread for this, with a response from EMG....
http://warpmymind.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5568

But it would be nice to see the members' opinions too.. And see if any of the against-voters dare stand up and explain their choice.
I mean seriously, even though the masses mostly vote for wetting, feminization and orgasm files.. I still thing WWM should cater to the minority too... Cos even though there is a minority who want other files as well, I doubt it's extremely small... And there is some basis for those wishes.

[BillionSix]

Maybe I am overly optimistic, but I don't think a lot of it is malicious. Just not really thinking too hard about it.
"Well, I want this one. I'll click 'for', this one doesn't do it for me, I'll click 'against'."
You know? Just giving their opinion, and not realizing that they are shooting someone's idea down.

Personally, I would only click 'against' if the idea was potentially dangerous, or blatantly unrealistic.

Brian

[MacGyver]

i always thought of it as "for" would interest me and "against"
would be of no interest to me.

[diapers_forever]

[BillionSix]

[diapers_forever]

[Zombie_Genocide]

Honestly, I think the Against serves it purpous. Not as much as an opinion, but rather, a safeguard to potentailly dangerous files, because some people may not see that at first, until others spot it.

[lettuce]

I think the most important reason is that it adds a factor that obscures the previous trend of oldest files always having most votes, which I found very noticeable with the old system. Now the competition between files is more about appealing to many people without offending others, instead of just having stayed on the list for long enough to have gathered up lots of votes.

Though the list still stays a little static since no one are making the files on the top of the list.

[davelowe1977]

Personally, I value the comments about the files more than I do the votes.

In fact, I would propose an overhaul of the system whereby both voting and an element of comment could be combined.

Instead of the current system, why not have an 'opinion' button instead. This would redirect to a subform, in which the member could rate the file according to several criteria on a 1 - 5 scale or similar.

A couple of questions could be asked such as:

1. This file did what it said it would do: 1 2 3 4 5
2. This file was effective for me: 1 2 3 4 5
3. I would recommend this file for others: 1 2 3 4 5

etc.

The information from cumulative opinions could then be summarized next to the file name.

Obviously some consensus would need to be reached over the wording of the questions, but at least this system would get more accurate feedback from listeners.

[MasterHMH]

[BillionSix]

[zapnosis]

BillionSix, I think you have a good point. One side-effect of any democratic process is the ease with which minority groups or opinions can be ignored, regardless of their merits. Over-use of the "against" button can exaggerate this effect. And lets be honest, if people only ever played to the majority then this site wouldn't exist.

Of course the choice to make the file is with the hypnotist, but everyone likes their work to be used and appreciated and the votes will count for something. In any case, personally I think that it is a mistake to encourage competition in the hypnofetish community - celebrating diversity and variety is what it should be about. That's just my say...

[EMG]

Actually, I tend to keep files that have overly strong responses. If lots of people hate it that means they have an opinion.

The files that get dropped are the ones people don't care about ::EG::

[Score_Under]

As a minor improvement, you could just have a "For", "Against", and "Don't care/Not interested". There's some really interesting files there that are voted "against" just because they're not sexual to the extreme, or because people aren't interested.

For example, "MP3 Included"... just because it doesn't pertain to some random fetish, people vote against it. It's a genuinely good idea.

[MasterHMH]

[CuteLittleFaery]

[Zombie_Genocide]

[MasterHMH]

[Alien4420]

[davelowe1977]

[Krysta]

well, I do have to admit that the voting page might seem more relevant to me if it were on a rating scale, similar to that of the files after they're recorded. higher rated files would move to the top, lower ones down, and equal ratings would be split by number of votes. Personally though, while I can't speak for emg, if I go to the voting page looking for ideas, I don't pay any attention to its place on the list anyway, but rather just skim through them til something grabs my attention.

[wix]

Honestly, the 'against' link has no place on a site like this. I’m not into 95% of the stuff that is sold on this site. Diapers, babies, furries, blech! I choose to ignore that stuff because it doesn’t do anything for me (a kind understatement on my part). Over and over again I see file ideas I’ve added get pushed off the page. I think they are reasonable ideas - doable in terms of what you could get out of hypnosis, not so jam packed full of someones very specific fetish, and definitely not so out there that it could even offend someone. Example - "humper".

It’s disheartening to think that people just vote against anything that doesn’t turn them on. If that’s the case I’m surprised that people don’t do that with the files that are already made, if people are that immature about it.

Hypnosis files are made by real people right? So in what way does the 'against' vote help them? They aren’t forced to make any files that bubble up to the top. They can ignore dangerous and idiotic ones.

EMG... Drop the against links, please.