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Increasing individual susceptiveness throughout hypnotism

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Increasing individual susceptiveness throughout hypnotism

Postby livelonger8 » February 3rd, 2009, 12:53 pm

I recently thought of a way from which individuals could become much more susceptible to hypnosis; despite files already existing, a key fundamental still remains quiet through the art of hypnosis. In other words, I've noticed many issues correlated to belief; belief is fundamental to perception and is therefore, essential to hypnosis, amongst with many other perceptive subjects - religion, and the like. Although there are many, such areas can be avoided by pertaining appropriate levels of integrity; to mitigate upon belief issues from which an individual is compelled to believing in something completely irrational and something of which is featured with no benefit and is disadvantaged to humanity - extremist religion; an aspect from which humans are compelled to believing in for what does no harm to be wrong, and so forth - hypnosis perhaps could be utilized to enable for individuals to become susceptible to the placebo effect, amongst with many other positive-associative beliefs.

In addition to introducing hypnofiles from where an individual will become susceptible to a placebo effect, hypnosis - will believe in the effects regardless but won't compel to something of which scopes beyond their desires, or any other form of to-be considered negative belief - hypnosis could effectively mitigate upon the issues associated with belief. In order to do so, a suggestion can be implicated into an individuals subconscious to not accept negative beliefs; nacebo's and the many alike.

Overall, this should enable for individuals to become very susceptible to hypnosis, and thus will bring upon positive individuals, rather than to pertain negative aspects from within whom.
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Hope this helps to those who are proceeding to create hypno-files; to cut my post short, the implications are simple:

- Implement suggestions within an individuals subconscious that will compel the conscious mind towards positive belief; to enable the individual to believe in hypnosis regardless of anything positive but to not accept negative suggestions - or to accept nacebo effects - in addition, the individual would rather be compelled to the placebo effect - a positive implication.

- Additionally, the technique could also be utilized along with: an implication through which individuals will become effectively susceptible to deep trance, inductions and other hypnosis introduction related files

- Fundamentally - and completely vital to hypnosis, and aspects from which the individual gains a sense of positiveness, such files could completely mitigate upon skepticism from within an individual; skepticism and pessimistically susceptible aspects upon positive-related beliefs could be eliminated - many individuals appear to be compelled from believing in many potentials from the human mind - eliminating this may enable for individuals to develop a large capacity of mental potential to utilized consciously.

I hope for this to help file makers; it's just a suggestion (Ironically :P) for developing hypno-files - I haven't got a mic and thus, can't create any files - and text-to-speech methods appear well.. quite an inconvenience for users; I hope this enables for many file makers, EMG and the like to enable for individuals to have such wonderful experiences with hypnosis :)
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Postby whatthe75 » February 3rd, 2009, 4:13 pm

Beliefs can get in the way of trance and trance results?

Gees,i'd never thought of that one ( note the sarcastic tone in my typing).
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Postby livelonger8 » February 3rd, 2009, 5:41 pm

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Re: Increasing individual susceptiveness throughout hypnotis

Postby Orson » February 3rd, 2009, 10:20 pm

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Postby whatthe75 » February 3rd, 2009, 11:19 pm

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Postby livelonger8 » February 4th, 2009, 12:18 pm

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Postby hypnointerest » February 4th, 2009, 4:21 pm

Without trying to repeat anything that was said, you should be wary of mucking with what the subject believes to be "negative beliefs". Some of those beliefs could be subconsciously linked to social skills.
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Postby livelonger8 » February 4th, 2009, 5:25 pm

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Postby MacGyver » February 4th, 2009, 7:17 pm

what about doubt?

i remember listening to one file, the first thought on my mind as the induction started and i got comfy and started to relax was, "i doubt this file will have any effect on me or that th pseron coming through my ear buds will even put me into trance", before i knew it, the file had me, i went deep and could not get loose until the voice brought me out at the end of the file.

so, would doubt be considered negative or positive? or maybe kinda in between? lets just say that the dude who knows how to use duck tape got curious on this one, LOL.
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Postby livelonger8 » February 4th, 2009, 7:22 pm

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Postby hypnointerest » February 4th, 2009, 8:36 pm

Look at it like this.


Say you are trying to balance on a rail, walking along it's length. Your arms spread horizontal to the ground. You're carefully making your way across the beam and someone, worried, says "Hey, don't fall." What do you do? Most likely you fall because your brain accesses the word fall before don't.


In this same vein resistance can be useful. Some hypnotists even invite you to resist. This puts the subject off guard and usually increases susceptibility as they become so confident that they can resist, concentrating more and more on the commands while adding "don't" or "i will not" in front of them.
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Postby livelonger8 » February 4th, 2009, 8:55 pm

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Postby MacGyver » February 4th, 2009, 9:27 pm

ok, i think hypnointerest pretty much summed it up, maybe. i remember once in the past listening to a file where a female tist would "invite" the listener to have doubts as to whether or not the file would do anything or even send them into a deep trance. i dont remember what the file was or where i had gotten it from, but i had only listened to it one time, and the part about doubters has stuck in my mind. so maybe that is what had happened, i was invited to doubt that any file would ever have any effect on me let alone send me into a deep trance, and then, boom, i was there just because i had my doubts.

i think i shall experiment with having doubts like that again, and if i can keep it up for a few weeks, i think i shall also post my findings in my journal here on WMM.

there is a part of me that wants to be a scientist, and as we all know, a scientist will experiment with things just to find the outcome, so, wish me luck with this my latest experiment, i just have to choose a file to use during my experiment, which will most likely be something that could do no more than to change my figure into something more feminine. :twisted:
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Postby whatthe75 » February 4th, 2009, 11:05 pm

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Postby MacGyver » February 5th, 2009, 6:49 am

in a way, it is kinda strange how it takes longer for the negative things to register in my mind, for example, i thought of a blue door when i read the sentence where you said to not think of a blue door.

tried the experiment with the doubt last night, used a vanilla file, started feeling trance a bit faster, but will try again when i have more time to listen all the way through as the file i used is nearly an hour long.
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Postby hypnointerest » February 5th, 2009, 3:11 pm

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Postby hypnointerest » February 5th, 2009, 6:07 pm

You're quite right. It is important you don't drown your subject in "may". I like to start with words like may, we, perhaps and gradually move towards words like will, you, and definitely. If I stick with one I find the speech pattern to be annoying(at least to the organizational part of my brain).

I also like to give one of each in a sentence. "You may feel your heart rate sinking, and you feel your breathing getting deeper." The first statement makes the subject ask "Is my heart rate slowing?" and while it is considering this you can "get by the defense" with the second statement. Then when the second statement is realized as true, the first statement is usually proven true.



P.s. So modest! I feel I've learned a lot simply listening to the hypnotists on this site, yourself included. Much more than learning from books.
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Postby livelonger8 » February 5th, 2009, 6:37 pm

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Postby hypnointerest » February 5th, 2009, 10:01 pm

I wouldn't call it obvious. I would say it's obvious once it is mentioned to someone.
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Postby asankhya » March 21st, 2009, 10:54 pm

i skimmed a bit of it

the experience of trance is dependent on the listener's ability to focus. cause all hypnosis is, is the leading of focus.

the less they pay attention to their own criticisms and judgments the more susceptible they are to hypnosis. so simply lead their focus away from those distractions.

another good technique for hypnotists is to go into trance as you speak the induction, and speak not only with your words, communicate with your entire body. your tonality, enunciation, body language(in certain cases), breathing pattern, etc, all contribute to your ability to put people into trance. all you gotta do is listen to yourself talk and go into a light to mid trance yourself so that everything about you fuckin radiates that state to the listener. this is important

basically you want to make it more pleasurable to follow your commands than it would be to resist them. then you've already got em
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Postby asankhya » March 21st, 2009, 11:10 pm

theres no reason to not use direct suggestions, really.

just fill your scripts with embedded commands and whenever you say a 'maybe' or 'might', say them kinda offhanded.

you don't even need to use relaxation as the theme. relaxation is just convenient cause its what everyone associates with hypnosis and its a comfortable theme, too. you could use a theme of resistance if you really wanted to (ive never tried this, but im curious about doing it now)
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