cursewomb?

by **humbugtheman** » October 21st, 2007, 12:50 am

ok, does the curse womb file actually work? :?:

by **phillip** » December 1st, 2007, 5:53 pm

yes it does i have been confirmed by a real doctor that i am a man with a real womn now

by **Draygone** » December 2nd, 2007, 1:16 pm

Got a picture?

by **Henrique** » December 2nd, 2007, 7:54 pm

by **loony28** » December 3rd, 2007, 10:45 pm

by **Henrique** » December 4th, 2007, 2:49 pm

loony, i don't want to discuss it. i'm not a full doctor, just a student, so i don't saw everything a real doctor see. but, i already have Embriology. Even if whe can switch it on...
i won't believe until a X-ray or MR or anything can prove it.

Don't you find odd a man womb don't be noticed by news? It would made the male pregnant a reality, even if by artificial means.

i just don't know.

by **loony28** » December 6th, 2007, 10:33 pm

by **phillip** » December 7th, 2007, 4:25 pm

i am actually 6 months pregnant it is great

by **loony28** » December 7th, 2007, 9:10 pm

by **FlameD** » December 8th, 2007, 2:26 am

Hypnosis can make you think you have a womb.

Hypnosis cannot give you a womb. You can hypnotized all you like, but it doesn't change anything physical that couldn't be changed by concentrating hard. Just because you're hypnotized, your cells won't start dividing in different ways or alter your body significantly.

Hypnosis is useful for changing behaviors, or making you think you look different, or making you act different, and all that good stuff.

But hypnosis can't do more then that.

by **loony28** » December 8th, 2007, 12:30 pm

by **FlameD** » December 9th, 2007, 2:48 am

People do usually use a small portion of their mind's potential. Which means they don't learn as much as they could, or remember as much as they could. If you think more, you don't gain the ability to grow extra fingers on command.

No matter how hypnotized you are, you cannot think yourself into changing your DNA. It can't happen. It can't happen because there is simply no way for it to happen, biologically speaking. Frogs don't think, "Oh, I'd like to be female now" and boom, it happens. It happens in response to their environment and surroundings. They have no control over it. And frogs that can change their sex are set up vastly different from humans, who cannot.

by **loony28** » December 11th, 2007, 7:55 am

I'm not saying that it would be easy to change sex or develope a womb. What I'm saying is that there is so much that science does not understand about the mind that you just can't rule out the possibility. Yo may have heard that recently a group of scientists have been able to take skin cells and turn them into embrionic stem cells, or at least stem cells I forget which one they said. Now before this people would have said that once a cell becomes a specific type of cell it can never change.

To take this a little farther there have been reports of people with Multiple Personality Disorder that have had some physical changes take place when one personality takes over. I've heard of eye color changing and moles and birthmarks appearing or disappearing. Granted these are small things but they do stand out as the body being altered by the mind. Why couldn't it happen on a larger scale?

by **FlameD** » December 12th, 2007, 12:21 am

Well, I really doubt people with MPD change their eye colour and whether or not they have a mole. But even if they could, eye colour is vastly different from sex organs. It's the same difference as painting your walls a different colour and snapping your fingers to turn your walls from wood into brick.

by **loony28** » December 12th, 2007, 10:28 pm

Well I'm obviously not going to be able to convince you that it is possible FlameD. It's obvious that you are so close minded that the only way you'll believe that hypnosis can change your sexual organs is if a man with a womb was standing naked right in front of you. I will no longer try to convince you.

For the rest of you if you've read my posts you'll see that I believe this is possible. I've heard somewhere that we do have some frog DNA in us. Sorry but I can't remember where I heard it. Anyways there is a lot of DNA that science has termed junk DNA. Perhaps someplace in that DNA is the key to biologically changing gender or partially changing gender.

by **humbugtheman** » December 15th, 2007, 1:49 pm

hey, flameD, if u r so sure it doesn't work, why don't u listen to cursewomb for AGES and if nothing happens, your point is proven...

by **TawnieTS** » December 15th, 2007, 11:32 pm

Being a psychologist, on the verge of getting my doctorate... I will agree that hypnosis could be possible in releasing new hormones, like some of the hypnosis files suggest. I however stand by all that I've studied in this science that hypnosis would not give somebody a real womb.

The main reason? The body cannot reconstruct itself like that, using suggestions, let alone it being physically possible!

Hypnosis is a technique to put suggestions into your head, and make you believe something is happening.

Thats just the BASIC part of it. I cannot scientifically say its proven or disproved that it can release hormones, and or cause slight changes to the body like hair loss. I can scientifically say it is not possible for our bodies to construct a womb without the person probably going through excruciating pain, seeing a doctor daily, and it even getting on the news.

Let alone the idea of a body being able to construct a cervix, uterus, vulva, ovaries, and all the other parts required for a womb is miraculous!

In the end I just believe this guy might be suggested into believing he has a womb, and if he did ask a doctor about it, I would believe the doctor would probably laugh at him, and put him in a straight jacket. I would if I didn't know he was using hypnosis for this. So in the end maybe he was suggested through hypnosis to believe he went to the doctor and the doctor said he did.

xoxo Tawnie.

by **Diapered_Cherub** » December 16th, 2007, 12:58 am

I am glad to see someone with REAL common sense and creditials to back it up. Of course some of these people on here still wont believe you no matter what lengths you go to. For the most part, these files are just for entertainment, and not capable of fulfilling what they claim.

by **Blink** » December 16th, 2007, 8:41 am

by **Henrique** » December 16th, 2007, 12:04 pm

by **humbugtheman** » December 16th, 2007, 1:30 pm

I think TawnyTS is right....

by **loony28** » December 16th, 2007, 1:44 pm

Your right the author hasn't posted again but there could be a myrid of reasons why. I still believe that physical change is possible. After all no one knows how powerful the human mind is. I prefer to keep an open mind.

by **TawnieTS** » December 16th, 2007, 10:59 pm

by **TawnieTS** » December 16th, 2007, 11:08 pm

by **loony28** » December 17th, 2007, 2:15 am

Well I guess I'm a glutton for punishment since I'm still posting here but I'll go ahead and post some more.

Like I've said before no one knows how powerful the mind is. If you believe in the bible Jesus was able to perform all types of miracles. Miracles like making a blind man see and raising the dead. Now I believe that the blind man was blind from birth which had to do with genetics so how would you explain that?

There are frogs that can change their gender when need be. I know this arguement was made before and the reply was the frogs don't think about changing their gender. All I have to say is how do you know that they don't think about changing gender? Have you talked to a frog that has changed it's gender and asked it what it was thinking?

I heard before that we have DNA from multiple species in us and that some is frog DNA.

Here's another question for you. Why do males have nipples if their gender is locked in at conception? What do they do?

I'm sure we all know what happens when a male takes horomones to become female. His breasts start to grow and his penis shrinks. What's to say that they couldn't go further than that? After all they only take the horomones for about a year and after that they take lower doses I believe. Maybe if they kept taking those higher doses longer than a year there may be some changes that were previously thought impossible.

Oh well I'm sure I'm going to get hammered on this so go ahead and hammer away. I'm not going to change my mind that it's possible.

by **TawnieTS** » December 17th, 2007, 2:37 am

But its great at the same time you're thinking about the possibilities! I'm completely honest with you on that babe. I guess I'm just one of those girls that lives by her science teachings! :lol:

I could nitpick at some of the things you said but I'm not going to because I honestly don't want to argue, even though it would be a great discussion.

I don't believe in the bible however; so miracles never seemed to me as something that was possible! :lol:

Anyway, I'd still love to see photos or proof of this physically working. Maybe put me in my place!

xoxo Tawnie

by **Blink** » December 17th, 2007, 7:39 am

by **FlameD** » December 17th, 2007, 10:04 am

by **loony28** » December 17th, 2007, 3:27 pm

by **Diapered_Cherub** » December 17th, 2007, 11:49 pm

by **Henrique** » December 18th, 2007, 3:16 pm

Well, here I am again.

Tawnie, you didn't stray (but we may consider cancer as a natural death because of genetics).

Frogs are genetic programmed to change when they need. Not when they want.

Don't put the Bible on the middle of a science discussion. Some may not believe on the book (I believe on it), but it's not worthy to flame even more the discussion.

Nipples are a vestigious. Did you know that fetuses have tail? And hands similar to a frog? And a head similar to a "lesser" mammal? It's called ontogenic, if i'm not wrong.

Ya know, I won't discuss anymore here. Why not search articles trying to find something similar? "If I can't find that's doesn't mean it does not exist!". So, DO yourself a research. Get subjects, plan the work and just do it.
If it don't work, we (and the majority of the world) are right.
If it work and a male develops a womb, buy a suit because you would gain a Noble Prize.

And, like said before, an open mind is one that agrees to change opinions when faced with the actual truth.

Just don't try to make it a [url=http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=flame+war]flame war[/url].

Also, if we look to the first post, we're all on off topic.

by **Wildsprite** » January 20th, 2008, 3:41 am

you people that have posted about science....you disturb me, you practice a theory a theory is something that someone before you came up with, and you know what science has NOT PROVEN anything about genetics, they gave up when they found what satisfied them, the mind is the most powerful tool we have and I do not believe that humans are locked into the form they are in, I for one have yet to see anything thats really more than someone with their head up their ass trying to disprove things so others wont believe, you believe what you want, let others believe what they want, its their life not yours, if they really do believe that suggestion in the file will work, it probably will eventually even if it is in fact physical, trying to shoot someone down and make them give up on their dreams is really stupid and not a good thing, humans have the most potential of any being on this world yet most will never realize it and you know why? close minded people who quote science to induce doubt thats why

by **FlameD** » January 20th, 2008, 9:01 pm

So, you're saying that people should believe whatever they want to believe with no concern about reality? That if I honestly thought that Japan really contained giant lizards that fought with giant apes on a daily basis, or that Canada was a mythical land of dragons and wizards, you would just smile and say 'Good job using your potential'?

by **Wildsprite** » January 20th, 2008, 10:43 pm

I suppose I deserved that, still the mind is capable if creating physical change, science says its not, this created doubt making it not happen

by **Lobotaru** » January 21st, 2008, 2:33 pm

Actually, hormonal changes are possible through hypnosis, so saying that hypnosis can't cause physical changes is a moot point, because it can. Because hypnosis effects the brain, it can effect a person on many different levels depending on how susceptible they are. That's probably a very general explanation, but it shows that physical changes can happen. Now, as for a womb actually forming, that I'd need to see proof of. I can see breast tissue being formed due to hormonal changes, but an actual womb is something of a different story.

by **Wildsprite** » January 21st, 2008, 4:13 pm

exactly, but just because you need proof doesn't mean others don't believe, and creating doubt is just foolish, let em believe, whats the worst that happens? they fail? its better to fail without some outside critic creating doubt than to have someone or many someones saying it cant happen

by **JHoffman** » January 22nd, 2008, 2:55 am

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by **Wildsprite** » January 22nd, 2008, 5:34 pm

by **MindMaster** » January 23rd, 2008, 4:46 pm

by **Wildsprite** » January 24th, 2008, 1:12 am

ok so don't believe without proof, your post is just another that presents doubt, yet you have no proof it cannot be done either

by **SomePerson** » January 24th, 2008, 1:59 am

I know that I have no posts, but this thread has been catching my attention for awhile, and I thought I would throw in my two cents.

I looked into some studies that related to the clinical application of hypnosis, specifically in pediatrics. In a study, from a peer-reviewed journal, it was observed that hypnosis significantly and dramatically reduced the "colon motility" within the test group. While under hypnosis apparently the subjects were given induced emotions, and the resulting colon motility was observed.

[Colon motility/scintigraphic transit study measures pressures of the colon before and after you eat. These measurements will provide information on how your colon is working. Taken from http://csmc.edu/2634.html]

Additionally the study may be found at: http://web.ebscohost.com/ehost/detail?vid=1&hid=117&sid=f0cd02f5-89a5-4b40-a486-4c7c175c4173%40sessionmgr2

EDIT: The entire study verbatim may be found at this link:
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1469-7610.2007.01759.x?cookieSet=1

In conclusion, while hypnosis may not necessarily induce the growth of a womb, we still cannot discount it entirely. Consider that years ago hypnosis was scoffed and mocked by scientists, yet this and many other studies would suggest otherwise. We should always try to maintain an open mind, and be very careful about saying "never" or "ever," as it can often be thrown back into one's face. People merely have to open their eyes, many things happen that we can't explain, and we deny it and call it impossible, but we never no know.

Let the flames begin... :roll:

~SomePerson

by **Wildsprite** » January 24th, 2008, 2:47 am

this is my point exactly, I believe this file could work for the right person if they truly believe, creating doubt will only do one thing, make it likely not happen, why would anybody want to make something like this not happen? I think of it this way, its my right to attempt and fail, I should not have everyone and their brother trying to discourage me, which regardless of whether you realize it your doing by creating doubt, if someone wants this let them attempt it, who knows they might prove it worked, that would do wonders for the entire hypnosis community, whats the worst that will happen? the file wont work for them? better to go into it with a positive attitude and see if their minds will make it happen

by **loony28** » January 24th, 2008, 8:24 am

by **dollors1** » January 28th, 2008, 3:34 pm

by **FlameD** » January 28th, 2008, 9:15 pm

Chromosomes are picked at conception. The mother's egg has an X. The father's sperm has either an X or a Y. When sperm meets egg, you have either XX or XY.

If you have XY, then certain hormones cause your body to develop into a male. These hormones are caused by your chromosomes.

You do not change sexes during development. You do not flip-flop. You don't start with a vagina, then get a penis, then back to a vagina, then back to penis again. You grow either a penis or a vagina, then you're stuck with it.

by **Wildsprite** » January 29th, 2008, 12:42 am

people your getting off topic, this isn't about science or genetics, its about hypnosis and the possibilities of a file working, genetics does not decide if a file will work on you or not, your subconsciousness does, I think this topic should be locked due to all the flames its gotten from its beginnings

by **sunray_2** » January 29th, 2008, 1:44 am

Since the mortality-rate of people seems still to be at 100%, despite the best efforts of alchemists over the centuries, who i assume believed fervently in their goal, and since control of your body right down to the DNA would lead to immortality, the idea of the complete malleability of the body is hard to believe.

I suppose it would be possible for you to get into a state where you strongly believe to have a womb and will do your best to ignore contradicting evidence. In your subjective reality it then would have happened.

You might experience some friction with the rest of the world then.

Of course people have this annoying tendency to become anxious and defensive if the world constantly tells them they are nuts and dead wrong. I am not sure whether you would be much happier with strong beliefs you can't support by evidence.

On the other hand, if everyone would recognize you as a woman, your body would show evidence that you are a woman (HRT, GRS and good starting conditions ) this particular belief would only be contradicted at your doctors, so you could in theory live happily with it. After all for women having a womb is pretty normal.

by **loony28** » January 29th, 2008, 9:26 am

sunray_2 you might want to look up Nicholas Flamel. There are stories that he and his wife came into quite a bit of money suddenly and that people have seen them years after they were suppose to have died.

I still believe that hypnosis can drastically alter the body if given a chance. I had said this before and I'll say it again, NO ONE knows the limits of what the mind can do. If someone claims to know that then they are either a super genius or just following what everybody tells them.

by **sunray_2** » January 29th, 2008, 12:49 pm

We will have to disagree then. The evidence i saw so far isn't enough to convince me even in such basic cases like breast enlargement. What i read in studies wasn't exactly properly peer reviewed and up to standards.

I am sure though that the women in question were happier with their breasts after receiving a few sessions of imagination how wonderfully firm and big they are.

I do believe that hypnosis can help to motivate you to keep a reasonable diet, to work out, to dress nice and to change your self-image enough that you actually dare to have poise and attitude, which can go a loooong way into making you attractive. :)

And i think this isn't bad at all.

by **Henrique** » January 29th, 2008, 3:00 pm

cursewomb?

cursewomb?

Long and OT (again)

Cursewomb?

Well, hypnosis might be nebulous for growing a womb, but...

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