Eye Color

[Defunct]

I was wondering about this. Would it be possible to change your eye color through hypnosis? I'd think based on some of the other changes that seem possible through hypnosis, changing melanin levels or something would be relatively easy. Then again, I don't know.

Also would be interesting if you could change your skin tone too.

[Blink]

There's already a long thread discussing what might and might not be possible using hypnosis: "Aren't These Impossible?"

I'd suggest reading that, even though I don't think there was a response specifically to your question. You'll still get an idea of where the opinions fall.

-- Blink

[CuriousG]

A good rule of thumb is: If a drug can't do it, hypnosis can't either.

That's not to say this rule is absolute, nor for that matter that hypnosis can do everything pills can.

[Jack]

Nor that pills can do everything hypnosis can.

[CuriousG]

[Jack]

limited forms of catatonia(including partial limb/extremities, and dissociation[also induces extreme anesthesia])

any form of color-blindness, and any level of blindness(although there are some drugs that in some people do induce various levels of temporary blindness)

hmmm, there are others, but they don't induce what I would consider physiological phenomenon.

any kinesthetic sensations including sharp, hot, cold, wet, dry, slimy, etc.

As you're aware, there are other phenomenon which both hypnosis, and pills do very well: inducing/reducing erections, increased/decreased need to eliminate bowels/bladder, speed of heart beating, hallucinations, etc

For a lot of these effects, pills can be the easier choice depending on the patient(IQ, preconditioning, ease of administration, etc) and doctor(timing, training, etc).

[Lissar]

I'm pretty sure that you cannot change your eye color through hypnosis. Eye color is based on multiple genes, and you cannot change your DNA.

[Jack]

Yup, and Lissar wasn't convinced. Hence the "I'm pretty sure". Better than(ifI remember correctly) his original "This won't work!"(pretty sure that's a paraphrase of his attitude, rather than a direct quote)

[goldragon_70]

[CuriousG]

Contacts are an easier and better-established way to change eyecolor than hypnosis. Frankly, I doubt that hypnosis even can change eyecolor, but then Ol' Birch will hit me with that breast site, so I won't. I'll just stick to my first sentence, which is indisputable fact. Also, bear in mind that just because something can happen due to effects such as aging doesn't mean it can happen with conscious control. You're no more in total control of your body than a CEO is in total control of Joe Janitor.

Here are a couple of links:
[url]http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a971205.html[/url]
[url]http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/feb2002/1013052193.Me.r.html[/url]

[loony28]

:twisted: Well I have heard that with some people with multiple personalities that when one personality takes over the eye color of the person can change. I have seen my own eyes start to change from green to yellow at times. So yes, hypnosis can change your eye color and I would think your skin color to. :twisted:

[Lissar]

[Jack]

Lissar, what's cancer?

[goldragon_70]

[Lissar]

Cancer is a mutation, a mistake. 50% of the time, it is caused by a problem with p53, which normally finds mutations and has them corrected. Most cases of cervical cancer are caused by a virus that attacks the cervical cells and inserts its own parasitic genetic information.

I would really appreciate it if people would consider the difference between cancer and changing eye color. Cancer is a terrible and serious disease, and it is characterized by mutations that affect the reproductive rate of cells. If we knew how mutations occurred, and we were able to control that, cancer would not be an issue. So if hypnosis could change DNA, maybe my best friend would still have her thyroid gland, my classmate wouldn't have missed a year of school, and my grandfather would still be alive.

If you want to go and argue about how evolutionary change could not have occurred without mutations, you're forgetting that individuals do not change phenotypically, only genotypically, and that genotypic change must occur in the cells that become gametes. That's why cancer is not passed down (although you can have a genetic predisposition); it usually occurs in somatic cells. So the first child to have DNA that coded for blue eyes did not have parents whose eye colors changed from another color to blue.

goldragon_70, I have absolutely no idea what you're even saying. If you read my previous post, you may have seen that I was talking about polypeptides as the end product of transcription and translation.

[CuriousG]

[goldragon_70]

[Lissar]

There's no way I can respond to your post, goldragon, because once again, it makes NO sense at all. Where are you even getting information to support your absurd argument?

[goldragon_70]

High school Human anatomy and physiology, and the meditation thing came from a friend of the person that did it.

[Lissar]

That's strange, considering I've just completed a year of college intro biology, and I had already taken intro and advanced biology in high school prior to that. Perhaps you aren't remembering your class correctly. Also, anatomy and physiology aren't genetics.

[Senji]

If magick can do it, hypnosis can do it.

[Blink]

To misquote John Gillespie Magee, Jr., "Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of reason...."

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[goldragon_70]

[CuriousG]

[Jack]

[CuriousG]

[goldragon_70]

[Dingus]

[Jack]

Do I hear a volunteer in the croud, Dingus?

[NeKofLiP]

i would happily volunteer. i didn't even read the debates, but in my opinion, if you really think it can happen, it will. unless its some BS like you being able to fly or something.

[goldragon_70]

If someone is willing to make the file, or do the sessions, I will do it. I have some green in my brown eyes, and I would like to see if I can my my eyes mostly green instead of mostly brown.

[NeKofLiP]

ah you are lucky. my eyes are a typical dark brown, i would love to have green eyes. why don't we make a file of this in the voting page?

[goldragon_70]

Could make one that works with you when you look at your eyes in the mirror. You look for the color in your eyes that you want and you focus on promoting the spread of the color.