Another person with trance troubles

[MadDameButterfly]

So I've been trying for a few months now, listening to any files I like the sound of, usually a few times a day, or day after day, hoping that maybe one of them will affect me. However, I get the same results every time: While I'm being told to relax I have absolutely no trouble, even though I'm being way too analytical and finding problems in just about everything being said, but when I get to the part where I'm supposed to be in trance, I feel totally aware of myself, can't shut off my mind at all and have real trouble staying focused on the voice. Normally I either get lost in my own thoughts while still feeling wide awake, and jump back to the voice every few minutes, or I fall completely asleep because I was too tired that day and I do all of my hypnosis in my bed.

Does anyone have any suggestions? Do you think I might have achieved trance the few times I thought I fell asleep? One time I was interrupted and the other I woke up as the file, which I had looping, started over, and there was no gap at the end of the file after the awakener so it started pretty much instantly. Could that have been it? I did just feel like I'd gone to sleep, though, and I was really, really tired that day and in need of a good nap.
I don't know what I can do to help myself. I try to leave my mind as blank as possible, only focusing on the person speaking to me, but I have so much trouble staying focused. Am I just trying too hard?

Any help or advice you could offer would be much appreciated, because I'm really starting to lose hope.

[bandler]

[MadDameButterfly]

Life lesson 1: Act like a tool and you just ain't cool.

If you read my title topic, then you would realise that yes, I am aware that there have been other threads on this issue. The fact that I am able to spell correctly and use grammar should give you some indication of my intelligence.
If you read my post, you would understand that while I have read these, I am still confused and wish to know other people's opinions on whether or not I have gone into trance.
And if you listened to your mother, you would know that acting like a complete wanker when someone asks for help, does not do anyone any good. Especially not you, and especially not the person you are supposed to be helping.

I'm sorry if you misunderstood me. What I actually meant to say was, "I'm confused, stressed and would like some help on this issue because I'm confused and don't know if what I'm doing/achieving is right." Perhaps what I actually said was, "Are you a troll? Are you bored? Come on down and flame me, then!"

But rest assured, I'm sure the view is lovely from your high horse.

[qv]

[MadDameButterfly]

Okay, thank you very much. I'll give that a try. And thank you for the support as well, it was much appreciated. I was actually dreading coming back here because I thought the reply was another attack. Phew!
Anyway, I'll definitely make sure to try something simple. I just had to distract my friend for an hour after she listened to the Demoness file. Now she's just saying "Oh my God" over and over. I'd rather not have this work on something like that. XD

[qv]

[MadDameButterfly]

Well, thank you very much for the suggestion. I tried it out, didn't worry about focusing on the voice but actually had no trouble today, experienced... semi(?)- tunnel vision, and I did feel the changes in my body in response to the questions, and what felt like a change in control later. However, after the switch, I still had the 'hidden' piece of knowledge, and I could answer the questions without any confusion.
So, would you say this is a small achievement and I should just work on this file a bit more? Or would you say the punchline's kind of ruined now? Seeing as the info is temporarily hidden, I'd guess it wouldn't matter because even if I knew the punchline, I wouldn't be able to remember what was missing anyway... I suppose I won't give up hope. I consider it progress. I suppose I'll try the file some more, and maybe work on other simple files like you suggested.

EDIT: We actually ended up just asking her heaps of questions and doing whatever we could to waste the hour for her without giving her what she wanted. Oh, and trying to keep her off of Omegle. She was mortified today. So obviously I teased her mercilessly. She's deleted the file and promises to be more careful next time. :3

[qv]

[ocntrl]

Seems you are making progress, and that is nice to hear.

The major misunderstanding about hypnosis is that you should not remember anything and be in zombie like state.

Nothing is less true.

Most people will, with files, especially at first, be aware of and remember everything.

That said, hypnosis is also about allowing to suspend you disbelief for a moment.

Let me give you an example.

Most likely you can recall a movie that touched you in a strong way. Maybe to the point you shed some tears, started yelling at a character or anything else.

You did so because you were in trance. And in order to go in trance you suspended you disbelief for a while.

You ignored the fact it was actors, a staged setup, that someone recorded it, cut it up, added sound effect... you just elected to experience the movie at an emotional level although you knew it was not real.

You allowed it.

Same goes for files. Especially files because they are one-way. The hypnotist can not measure and react to your behavior. So if something phrased in is not in line with what you experience there's this instinctive reaction of 'that's not happening' and you jump then to 'so i must not be in trance'.

So for files it is critical to give the words the meaning that works for you. If it talks about a tingle in you hands, it's ok to feel it in your feet or feel a numbness, because that's how it translates for you.

If it is stated you go 10 times deeper, don't analyse what does 10 times feel like, just accept that whatever change you feel, as little as it may be, is success.

You may want to try the Deep Trance (extended version) file I created, helping people to get a better understanding of trance.

And again, at first, it won't feel like anything special. Just a feeling of calm and maybe slowness.

All the best. Be safe and have fun!

[MadDameButterfly]

Phew. So, in the end I tried listening to every file I could, but it was Calimore's Mystifying Spiral that got me. But something did get me in the end. I'm so incredibly happy I've finally managed to do it, and also that it was like I was expecting.

Thank you all so, so much for helping me out, and I'll be sure to keep working on it so I can utilise ocntrl's amazing files.