Understanding Catagories of Effects

[sarnoga]

When posting new files there is a place to select the effects of the file being posted. The choices are listed below:

Temporary(fixed time)
Temporary(until event)
Trigger(by yourself)
Trigger(by anyone)
Trigger(by accident)
Trigger(by item)
Permanent
Permanent(when safe)
Curse
Only while under
Dreams

While some of them are easy to understand, others are not, at least for me. I was wondering if someone could post a glossary that gave the definition of those terms so that I could accurately categorize files that I post. It would also help those selecting files to understand what they are getting. That is unless I am the only one that is unclear about some of the definitions.

If you know, or think you know, what they mean please post. I am also interested to know if all are in agreement as to the meanings. So if someone posts definitions please post if you agree and post if you have a different or even slightly different definition.

The ones that are most unclear to me are the permanent ones and temporary ones. To me, permanent means forever. I understand that to fit the category of Curse.

In what category would you place a training file that has effects beyond only while under or dreams yet is not a curse. Where would you place a file that is temporary but not until either an event or fixed time. What if it is for an indeterminate period of time less than permanent but not tied to any particular event? One that gets stronger with continued listening but that just gradually fades over time if not reinforced by continued listening?

I am a bit confused by my choices. Thanks in advance for any help. In addition, if you could please answer the scientifically formulated poll above I am sure that would help clear things up.

Sarnoga

[demigraff]

I assumed that 'permanent' means the file doesn't have any conditions to explicitly make the effect end. Wearing off with time is pretty much a given. Though if you have suggestions about how quickly it will fade, that's probably "temporary (fixed time)"

[sarnoga]

[Calimore]

[sarnoga]

I usually likes it that way too except when I can't decide or don't know what the hell I'm doing. Or then there is my usual mode of operation, figuring it out as I go along.

Thanks Cal,

Sarnoga

P.S. Please don't forget to vote. I heard someone say once that it is your civic duty, but then I suspect they were full of shit. That was so long ago I just can't figure out how they knew about my poll.

[Calimore]

[sarnoga]

[Jeshi]

Temporary(fixed time) = Effects of file will eventually wear off after a set amount of time.

Temporary(until event) = Effects of file will only wear off after a specific event triggers it.

Trigger(by yourself) = You can activate the effects of the file on demand by yourself.

Trigger(by anyone) = Anybody that knows the trigger can activate the effects of the file.

Trigger(by accident) = The effects of the file can be activated by events which are not under anyone's control, such as an accident.

Trigger(by item) = The effects of the file are activated by a certain object.

Permanent = As soon as you wake up the effects of the file will be apparent and will continue to take effect indefinitely. It will not wear off on it's own, but you could possibly go under hypnosis and remove the effects that way. Such as a RemoveAll file.

Permanent(when safe) = Same as permanent but with some sort of safety net attached. So that really it only takes effect in your spare time, and not in a situation that would have serious negative consequences on your life. So if someone breaks into your house and threatens to kill you you won't be trying to offer them a blowjob. And if you won't be chasing squirrels at work most likely either.

Curse = The effects of the file can not be removed by another file except sometimes by a specific person specified in the file. So for instance, if you listen to a curse by EMG then you can never undo the file unless you pay EMG to make you a curse removal file, because in his curses he specified that only he can remove the curse.

Only while under = When you wake up there will be no effects from the file. Everything happens during the file and stays self-contained.

Dreams = The file affects your dreams and nothing else.

[Liann]

I would say that the only two categories where it matters, whether or not you understand what you are getting into, is PERMANENT and CURSED.

CURSED is a file which plays with your mind, instilling a helplessness of surrendering to the suggestions of the file. You may like the idea going in but want to change your mind after tasting the consequences. Being cursed means that you can't change your own mind, and you accept your curse as binding. Accepting the curse is not the same thing as accepting the effects of the curse. You might accept that you are cursed with big lactating breasts, but not necessarily enjoy the fact of milk leaking out of your nipples wetting your shirt at work. The power of a curse is your belief in it, believing it has power over you, not what it does.

PERMANENT means that you are making changes to your permanent mental programming, your self-identity program. These changes themselves can have cascade effects causing further changes which you may have no knowledge of, or no conscious control over, causing long-term, or lifelong, personality or behavioral changes which you might not have thought through beforehand. Whether you are pleased or displeased, it's not like hair dye which can be grown out or re-dyed, but more like tattoos which stay with you and add up. A person who wakes up after a drunken night with a new tattoo still has the tattoo whether they thought about it or not.

The human psyche has enormous inertia and cannot be changed easily and profoundly without gigantic effort.

It is often said that one cannot be hypnotized to do anything which they are fundamentally opposed to doing, but it is possible through a number of indirection steps to change what a person wants so that they ultimately are in agreement with something which they once opposed. This is longterm and requires continuous efforts.

You might be susceptible to temporary hallucinations that you have been turned into a girl for a short time, but unless there's something down below that wants it very much, a heterosexual male cannot be turned into a sissy shemale by any hypnosis file. Suggestions would kick you out of trance if anybody tried to go too far. Hypnosis requires voluntary compliance, and there's some part of you which has to want what the hypnosis promises before you get anything out of it. Furthermore, you can fast-forward through files, skipping over sections, to sample what they are saying in the parts where normally your guard would be down in trance. The only person who can fool you is you, and people regularly do lie to themselves about lots and lots of things. Maybe you want what you tell yourself that you don't want?

Not even the soviet police states could perfectly hypnotize their populations, and you know corporations would be using hypnosis MP3s if it was cheaper than advertising on TV. Your email inbox would be filled with MP3 files from Exxon telling you global warming is good for you, and vote for the Tea Party. Just like Blackberry hires U2 for it's commercials, Hollywood would be for sale making Hypno-Ads for name brands, if it worked so wonderfully well.

[sarnoga]

[Djourno]

Great posts guys. I guess the best thing is for each file to have a clear description and explanation for any effects/side effects that might happen.

There are many files that aren't "labelled" well, and the last thing you want to do is regret listening to any hypno files, especially if you WANT to be hypnotised.

I think there's also a few Youtube vids that actually point out some hypno videos that should be avoided because they're not described accurately.