The forced gay success thread...

[CyrilMtl]

I am interested too, a file that turn you 'more top' or versatile could be nice.
Most of the file here are more oriented for bottom/sub/slave idea.
I am gay but being tall and in shape and with a pretty nice tool people see me more as a top even if I am more versatile-bottom.

[redhotpump]

I also think one that involves faces would be good, or one that involves the whole male form.

Although I think that CFG is starting to have some affects, it is still hard for me to move from fantasy to reality. I also mainly feel that I am gay when I am horny, and still feel str8 when I am not horny.

I've recently started listening to CSG some - from the comments sounds like can help me with some of these issues

[ftslave67]

How 'bout a file that would make one dominant/a top for a specific time period or on hearing a trigger? There's some safety factor in knowing a change is only temporary--might make it more easily accepted.

[AlanH26]

It is odd how many of us have become bottoms. I certainly am. Maybe it's because when we were straight we had to effectively be tops and being gay gives us the opportunity to be different. I'm glad I'm a bottom anyway.

[xavious]

Perhaps if it's new or unfamiliar territory (gay sex) that people assume a more passive role because they want to be guided in how it should be and would be unsure if they tried to top. A change in the sexual dynamics of "I have the penis, my partner doesn't, therefore I'm expected to be the active partner" to "we both have a penis, but I don't know what to do with mine in this situation, so I can let my partner be the active one", muddying the expectation.

It could also be a mental expectation of gays being more passive due to stereotypes i.e. "camp".

[JackDrago]

For the already gay guys, I already have two files to make you more top. Both [url=http://www.warpmymind.com/Files/8135/Stroke-Manly.php]Stroke Manly[/url] and Manhood Blessing are useful for turning a gay man into a butch, dominant top.

I have a bunch of personal hypnosis to do for now, but a "forced gay top" file is first on my list for when I get to writing files for other people.

[convinced]

I just thought I'd leave my response for the sake of it.

For the past three years I've exposed myself to Cursed Forced Gay(and recently tried out Cursed Stroke Gay, which is surprisingly good), and as of a week or two ago I can definitively have a strong sexual interest in men, something that was either not noticeably part of me before.

I came across the Straight-to-Gay concept due to my existing interest in unlocking more potential of one's mind and my interest in material(including hypnosis) related to that. I originally used the file because I wanted to challenge myself to see how far outside information could modify/manipulate my existing mind--------even if I was consciously aware of such influences.

For quite some time I thought the file was worthless as it wasn't making any noticeable impact on my attraction to women or my (at the time) still almost non-existent attraction to men. For a time I even forgot the file existed, and when I remembered I began using it again, that time attaining a minimal attraction to men----which is better than nothing.

From then on, the next few months involved me making a more dedicated effort to listening to the file----and also seeing how my arousal to men would change over time. Surprisingly, it did change quite drastically, and eventually I could get turned on by men just as easily as women. It was at this time I began concerned about the psychological effects of this file, as I noticed my behavior becoming increasingly flamboyant/metrosexual-like. Not that it bothered me----those attributes didn't really conflict with my existing personality----but I began to fear that I might also adopt a more submissive/beta personality(traits that did actively conflict with my naturally impulsive, confrontational, proactive, and hotheaded personality). The problem for me was that a lot of hypnosis files I was aware of had some submissive/beta command tacked onto them, and I figured if this file could actually make me gay, it could have me pick up those attributes as well.

Thankfully, as time passed, my concerns about picking up traits (besides becoming more flamboyant/flamer-y) never really happened, and my interest in women (at least compared to to my interest in men) is pretty low, and I'm now much more prone to getting turned on when I see a magazine of a hot guy, passing a hot dude on the street, or generally gay porn.

This file is definitely effective, even if the effects aren't immediately noticeable.

[bostonmarc]

[subdad36]

[Dreamin4Men]

I became a bottom as well. I think it's focused on bottoming because for me at least, its easier to get off with a cock in the mouth than anything else.

[broerk]

Been reading here for a while and decided to try the file for myself.

I decided to try the file because I am curious about hpow effective it truly is. From what I've read from this thread it is truly effective. However there is no better experience then first hand experience. I am as far as I'm aware completly sthraight so if I do turn out gay after two weeks I'll know this file works. Or....you know...have been in denail for most of my life :wink:.

There is also another reason for me to try this hypmo file. I have a panic disorder which revolves around the fear of being gay. Please don't get me wrong. I have nothing against gay people in general. I apperently fear being one myself though. Weird I know.

Anyways the idea behind it is that what better way to get over your fears then to face them head on. So if this file does work and I become gay. I can experience what it is like and experience that it is nothing to be afraid of. If however the file doesn't work on me well then I hope it will help my mind let go of this fear.

[MasterJack]

[broerk]

[MasterJack]

The decision is totally yours.

I understand why you would panic of not getting a girl. Gay's are more promiscuous and that's a fact, and only the PC (politically correct) folk would try and deny this.

The majority of men never play hard to get, most of the time they're grateful to be able to get some action, especially from the person they wanted to. The majority of women always play hard to get, their emotional aspect nearly always takes precedence over their horniness.

A gay man will sleep with you when they're horny, because they don't care what other people think too much. While a women, even if they're horny and do want to sleep with you, will not do it, if they care what some other people might think and who'll find out.

Even though sex is so much more casual for women these days. You still need game to pull women in clubs (or where ever else). While to pull a guy in a gay club is pretty easy.

These are both generalizations of men and women, but they are true for the majority of men and women, I'd say 95% of the time, and the other 5% are the exceptions to these generalizations. Only femenists or the PC crowd would try to blur the lines that men and women are pretty much the same in all things, which just isn't true.

Hell the PC crowd would never believe it's possible to change sexuality through means such as hypnosis, as people are born that way, and their sexuality never changes, but we know otherwise.

So it's your decision. But if you're panic disorder is about not getting a girl, rather than judgements from family and friends, or the fear of the stigma of being gay, then I'm sure this file will help you. But be sure that it is before trying the file, because as many will tell you, once you try it, there's pretty much no turning back for most people.

[broerk]

[MasterJack]

Why not do the cursed force bi file then?

[xavious]

[MasterJack]

Firstly when I was talking about being gay, I was referring to gay men. I thought this was self evident in the context I was speaking in (the differences between men and women), as well as posting under this specific topic (cursed forced gay, which is a gay file aimed at men). So let's not get hung up on that detail.

Secondly I don't want to get into a heated argument about this. I'm stating my own repeated observations on human sexuality, and the data and statistics I've researched (there are plenty which say gay men are the most promiscuous).

You find one study from a dating website that claims it's statistics prove gay men aren't any more promiscuous. Well I don't think a dating website, who's majority demographic are of people who are looking for love and serious relationships (rather than hookups), is really the best place to do a survey which "prove" gay men aren't more promiscuous.

All I have to do is go to Craigslist, who's majority demographic are of people who want to hookup (rather than love and serious relationships), and do the same survey, and I'm sure my statistics would prove the opposite case to be true (that gay men are more promiscuous).

I believe general observations are enough for most people to see this.

Because:

1. The majority of men are horny bastards with less hang ups when it comes to sex.

2. It's easier to hook up with men than it is women.

I don't even necessarily think it's a gay thing either. I think it's a man and women thing. If women were as easy as men when it came to pulling, then straight and gay men would be just as promiscuous. This is why I was talking about women being most likely to let their emotions and judgements hold them back from hooking up, while men are less likely to do so.

Let's be honest here. If I wanted to get laid today, right now. I could put the word out that I'm horny and I wanna fuck (or give oral). One ad worded for men, and another ad worded for women, on all sorts of websites, whether dating or hookup sites. With the male ad I would be inundated with responses (I know I've tried this before). While with the women ad I would be lucky to get 1 response. i.e. The majority of women need a lot more than being horny to sleep around, while men usually don't.

So I think that's why gay men are the most promiscuous. Because getting laid with other men is easy. If straight men could lay women just as easy, I'm sure the numbers would be the same or similar.

Lastly notice I never said anything about promiscuousness being a bad thing. I was just stating gay men are more promiscuous and that's why you don't have to worry about sex in that department as you do with women. You're the one who's found offense to it. But this is the general observation I've made, and so have a lot of people.

It's like me stating that women are physically weaker than men and aren't ideal for work that requires heavy lifting; and then feminists having a go at me saying I'm a misogynist. Fuck off you PC bitches. Never did I imply physical weakness was a bad thing, you implied that. But I am stating men would be ideal for a heavy lifting job, while women wouldn't be.

Hell I'll even go one step further and state, if a war was fought where country 1 had an all female army, while country 2 had an all male army, and both had the same equipment and training. Country 2 would win. Why? Because men are generally more aggressive (usually due to higher testosterone), are more stronger and physically fit (better for close combat, loading weapons, climbing, running while carrying heavy equipment), and are more easily able to detach themselves from the devastation to take the shot (because they usually have a better control of their emotions).

You see me using words like generally and usually and majority. Reason being, these are the general observations of the world, society, sexes etc... They all have there exceptions, but they are still the general observation we can't deny. For example the majority of people are straight, I don't think anyone would argue this is not the case.

Hell I bet I could say the majority of users on this website are men, and the minority are women, and I wouldn't be wrong. But I wouldn't be bashing women either for saying it.

So I've never said being gay is a bad thing, or being promiscuous is bad thing. But I have said, and will stand by it, that gay men are more promiscuous than other sexualities. Only you can decide if saying that was a bad thing, and then that's your problem.

Anyway I've said what I've wanted to say on the subject. You can reply how you like, but I'm not going to argue about this specific topic anymore. To be honest I think we're arguing about nothing. I apologize to everyone if my beliefs or opinions have offended you, but I'm not here to be liked by everyone, so just don't like me if you don't like what I believe, simple as.

[xavious]

All you've provided is a wall of text and not a single shred of evidence, yet you feel that my evidence, that I was under no onus to provide because YOU made the original claims, wasn't good enough, because "reasons". Why should anyone trust a single thing you are saying?

You cannot just make sweeping statements followed by painting any detractors as wrong using a pejorative, and then expect anyone to remotely trust or respect you.

You've essentially self-proclaimed yourself an untrustworthy tist with this unprofessional tirade, and falling back on weasel words doesn't make it any better.

[MasterJack]

[lego]

I'm afraid I have to agree with MasterJack on this. Men are horny bastards who would love to have sex if given the chance.
Source: myself. :P

[ftslave67]

The perception is certainly out there that gay men are more "promiscuous" than the population at large. Has there been a solid scientific study? I haven't seen it. Certainly there are also reasons why that might be true--not being able to marry, until recently in most states. Also, maybe since gay relationships are not "traditional", there's no real societal pressure to conform to the "norm" of monogamy.

[gayblake]

Hi everyone, got scared off the first time, but I'm gonna give it another go soon. Warming up with lots of gay porn, then I'll be back into the CFG!

[gayblake]

Well I finally had my first gay encounter! After the urges built up for so long I couldnt help myself. We met through grindr, and he came over. It was such a good feeling holding another man's penis in my hand, and even better in my mouth! Well time to listen to some CFG to reinforce my gayness!

[CyrilMtl]

Nice, that was a lucky guy :) being the first for a cute ex-hetero twink like you.
How do you define yourself in the gay world ? Versatil/top/bottom/sub... ?
Do you plan to continue listening to cfg ? Or wait and see if you slowly switch back to the girls side :)
Some people here seems to switch back and for, waking up one day liking pussie, the next day dick ...

I am looking at cfg to reinforce my gay side but i am a little afraid that it push me more in the sub/bottom role. I have to read the script.

[gayblake]

Well thank you! I'm definitely a bottom/sub twink, although I've only sucked so far, I would love to take a cock in my ass! I've heard once you take a cock, there is no going back, that's when you know you are are truly gay. I'm gonna keep listening, I'm thinking of trying another challenge and go fully gay for a month, but we'll see, it's so hard.

P.S. I love how you describe me as ex-hetro! So liberating!

[Fomicry]

God I love a sub/bottom twink... Im actually drooling Haha

[Kurokotsu]

[MasterJack]

Well if you bothered to read the posts after that, where I clarify my position and reason more, you would see I agree with you on the straight men being just as promiscuous.

But as you couldn't be bothered to read my reasons and evidences I posted in a couple posts after that one, I can't be bothered to reiterate them here. They are literally all on the same page in this thread, Page 121, go back and read them first before replying again.

And if you're still offended after reading them, then that's your problem.

[OxyFemboi]

There are problems with making generalizations. What is generally true of a population (especially when comparing two populations) is not necessarily true of a specific person of that population (compared to another specific person of another population). As an example which will not arouse arguments: "women are, in general, less strong than men." However, I knew one woman, Olivia, who was employed by a coal mining company; she worked in the coal mine as a miner, not in an office as an office worker. She was definitely stronger than most men (including me ... and since I was lifting weights at the time, I was fairly strong, especially in my lower body (my upper body strength has always sucked). She also looked extremely feminine, not extremely muscled like most Ms Olympias (or even most Mr. Olympias) of the time.

One cannot reason from a general principle to a specific example without a lot of qualifications. Similarly, one cannot reason from a specific example to a general principle without much qualifications. These are problem in logic which often lead to fallacies.

[MasterJack]

I totally disagree.

Women, in general, ARE less strong than men. That generalization is true.

You can't use an exception to disregard a generalization, as that doesn't make any sense. A generalization is something that happens usually and often, but not always (which are the exceptions), that's all it is.

In most parts of the world, you can generally see the stars at night. Places which have a lot of air pollution or light pollution would be the exceptions.

[OxyFemboi]

[jamwest]

Hi room,

Long time reader of this thread and been listening to all the associated files on and off for years. Getting urges, binge listening, then going off it, but each time it gets a bit stronger and I go a bit further (sure you know the deal). Now I am having the urges again and have even started chatting to guys on grindr, but always too afraid to go through with meeting etc. Get a thrill out of chatting and sharing pics though.
Feel very submissive and what I think could help push me over the edge is some kind of guide (preferably dominant but not necessary at all) to exchange emails/messages with and to help encourage and push me to keep going further. Happy to share images, talk in detail about stuff, whatever you like. So if anyone is interested in helping me go further with this please write me here or at jamwest360@yahoo.com Looking foward to talking and going further down the rabbit hole. By the way I'm 26, male and athletic.
Thanks so much for reading. This thread is amazing.

xx James

[MasterJack]

[joe-cat1]

Mmmm, i wanna be ex-hetero but i still have urges for females sometimes. That said i have SO MUCH GAY PORN on my computer now! ah! i just love dreaming about a boy taking me to gay pride in some tight underwear. yummy

[OxyFemboi]

[Dreamin4Men]

[hunkhunter]

Mmmmm it's so hot reading about all the dick dodgers turning to the gay side thanks to CFG. I really hope you turnees are happier now and have no regrets. My boyfriend was turned gay by CFG and tells me gay sex is million times better then sex with women. I wish all you turnees luck in finding a partner rather it be just for fun or a relationship.

[Convinced2]

Made a similar username for this since I forgot my old account password, but I thought I'd give an update:


I'm primarily turned on by men and I've been wearing more flashy clothes. I'm not sure if they'd be considered feminine cloths by most, but it is a change in fashion for me regardless.

Again, I'm really happy this file hasn't changed me psychologically, I'm still the person I always was but now my dick gets hard for men.

...Also, lol, what's with all the shitposting and baiting on this page?

[ftslave67]

Everyone has an agenda. Even if it's only to reinforce/restate their beliefs, right or wrong.

[hunkhunter]

I'm curious not all, but a lot of straight men seem to have a negative opinion of us gay men. So I wanted to ask what some of the men who have been turned by CFG thought of gay men before using the file and what made you decide to try CFG? Don't get me wrong I'm happy to hear of so many turnees I'm just interested in the mindset that makes a person want to risk turning their sexual orientation.

[Convinced2]

[OxyFemboi]

[joe-cat1]

[Convinced2]

[joe-cat1]

whoops

well here's link anyway

https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/fbde891cc81f6f7d7ebb9d7d99344517/tumblr_neu3crknYz1u3t1o6o1_1280.jpg

[Convinced2]

[Scodel13]

I'm thinking about starting to listen to CFG, anyone have any advise?