Your Other Half: multiple personalites

[OxyFemboi]

[Foxpaw]

Willing creation of a second personality is something you should think long and hard about.

Part of my hypnosis efforts for the last while has been learning all I can about the creation, sustaining and etc of having a secondary personality. (or in many cases, more) I can say without a doubt this is VERY dangerous ground you're treading.

Due to how the mechanics of personality creation works, you can't create and control a personality fully, they, much like the most mind, will grow, learn, and change as time goes on. This of course leads to many personalities, especially those created as mere sexual objects, tend to turn against the host mind in some way shape or form.

And considering how vulnerable one's mind can be from the inside, it's no surprise many of these secondary personalities can cause a hell of a lot of damage.

Even ignoring the risks that it may very well be your secondary personality doesn't like you, consider also the ethics. You are, for all intents and purposes creating a second person inside your mind, unable to interact with people around it unless you want it to, or it takes control from you at times. Imagine someone creating you, simply to keep you inside a box that you can look and see out of, but not leave. Madness is a very real threat for a neglected personality.

As a final comment, yes, sometimes the two personalities (or more, again) do get along and both get enough "face" time to stay happy and sane. This is not something you can go back from, it is near permanent in nature and scope. You will be sharing your body with another person for the rest of your life, unless you find a way to destroy it, which is tantamount to murder.

Be VERY careful how you proceed with this and be sure you want this before doing it. Things like this are not a lark to be toyed with then discarded. They will come back and bite you.

[danny1988]

I will be curious to see your progress I will admit :)
Hope it goes well for you and hopefully soon her :P

But I do agree with what Foxpaw said, its not a temporary thing this, I went into this knowing that it would be a permanent thing. Honestly I couldn't bring myself to destroying another personality I created anyways.

I would think and make sure you understand the risks fully before committing completely to the idea. There are a few ways to ensure it doesn't go wrong one good one involving a hypnotist who can guide you and help you come to a mutual understanding with each part of you.

Ensures you have backup and the tist can help you both.

Just keep an up to date journal then people can warn you if something seems off, better to be safe than sorry. But from looking at your posts I imagine your female side will be quite nice ^^ but what the subconscious thinks can be totally different entirely also.
Just be sure you are careful and don't rush into this for a temporary or quick fix for fun.

Best thing I found to help was sort of talk to myself and think what she would say, eventually she should have her own voice but it should help her along. Its some advice from a few hypnotists I was given.

Have fun and good luck :)

[im_not_here]

Be careful, is all I'm going to say. When I referenced Tulpae in the female takeover thread, I mentioned that part of the tulpa growth process is an identity crisis of sorts. Imagine being born without a body of your own, imagine knowing, instinctively, that you had a creator. Now imagine that this creator only made you because he thought the idea of you was "fascinating." I'm not sure how this file differs from traditional tulpae, or even if it does at all. All I'm saying is to be careful with this life you'll be making.

[OxyFemboi]

[KIY]

A bit off topic, but this discussion reminds me about something I read in a book (I think its name was "The Holographic Universe" by ? Talbot-- now that I want to check the names I, of course, can't find it!) claiming people with certain mental illnesses age slower than normal folks. The only mental illness the author discussed was multiple personality disorder. It was part of the book's argument that the physical universe came from consciousness rather than the other way around.

I just find it an interesting possibility which I would like to see explored some more. There was quite a lot of things like that in the book.

[danny1988]

[pczelda]

[OxyFemboi]

[KIY]

[OxyFemboi]

[OxyFemboi]

[danny1988]

[NeoSilver]

[pczelda]

[OxyFemboi]

[NeoSilver]

Holly would probably enjoy David Brin's Uplift series of novels, the latter half of the Honor Harrington series (after it's moved past purely military scifi into a space opera), and you both would probably enjoy the webcomic Schlock Mercenary. Though on that last, it'd probably be better to buy the print collections rather than suffer the eye strain you'd get having to read the entire run on screen.

[pczelda]

[OxyFemboi]

[pczelda]

[danny1988]

Heyas Ox and Holly :)

Glad to hear your still listening to make sure Holly stays around ^^
You both are lovely people and im glad your having fun with the file.

I am slightly tempted to listen myself again but I seem to be very hard to hypnotize :/ Im glad this file has worked for you both though :)
Maybe I have too many issues with the other file in the other thread it really did a number on me mentally and emotionally.

As for some scifi without action Holly, I find Fringe was a good balance and very interesting, bit like the xfiles. I loved that show :D
Also I have been watching a lot of Teen Wolf atm love the story in that there is so many plot twists and stuff ^^

But if you want something thats not always action Star Trek is a good bet :P Some episodes are action but its a lot more about the characters.

Hope your both having a lovely day, im currently enjoying the sunshine where I am ^^

Danny

[pczelda]

Wow this thread has been quiet, it's been over 2 weeks.

[OxyFemboi]

[pczelda]

[Scarlett_S]

I've been listening to this file for the better part of a week. I'm really really hard to hypnotize, but ever time I listen to this file I trance so hard I come out with no recollection of the file. I hadn't thought I had any effects yet, but I listened to the body on loop while I was working today and actually listened to it and I'm actually progressing nicely. No voice yet, no solid name yet, but I realized today that the influence gets stronger before any voice appears, and I'd say there's definite influence showing. Random wants to cross dress throughout the day, and in fact I made my first purchase the other night (socks, but socks have always been a big thing for me. Not a fetish, but I've always loved how soft they are and all that) and after trance last night, I emerged feeling... Odd. Kind of out of it, maybe? I don't really know. But it's progress, as far as I'm concerned, and I'm excited to see how it continues to appear.

[OxyFemboi]

[danny1988]

Good luck and im sure she will speak to you soon :)

[Boopdoop]

Hey there, I'm kind of new here, not to the thread, but to really this whole website. Aaaand this file has really caught my interest. How do you think it would go for someone who is a near-complete loner and really just wants someone to talk to? Also, congrats to Oxy and Holly for their success with this, and thank you, because reading your posts have really bolstered my confidence on this. I'm going to be getting paid soon and i plan to grab this file, but i am afraid that it might go awry in some way. I guess I'm a pessimist.

[OxyFemboi]

[OxyFemboi]

[danny1988]

Heyas Ox, Holly, Yoshi :)

Nice to hear from you all I look forward to talking more when I get back from wales ^^
It's really nice to see you talking more Yoshi and I too share your love of yaoi and shonen-ai :P

I do love the Japanese language and would love to learn it I find the language very beautiful too :)

Off to go get some food and hopefully some surfing in a little while xD

Danny

[Boopdoop]

Wow, I honestly wasn't expecting a reply so quickly but thank you all the more for it. I'm pretty set on doing this now, still a little nervous about this kind of thing but I'm gonna do it regardless whenever I can manage to afford it, which will hopefully be soon.

Thank you so much for the reassurance you have given me and I really hope it goes as well as it did for you two.

[OxyFemboi]

[pczelda]

[OxyFemboi]

[pczelda]

[OxyFemboi]

[pczelda]

[OxyFemboi]

[pczelda]

[Ardea]

Interesting thread. Me coming from a more dominant hyp perspective. Ive been working on some things of my own. But I have to say that... I need a new microphone. HA!


Reading this has given me some ideas as to a new direction I would like to go in. Not nearly as kinky- if any- or destructive. If your subconscious mind is like 90% of your brains processing power then... I want to use it to my advantage.

A personality that is always under my control and that in its case, takes pleasure in persuing my goals in life whatever they may be. Id like to think of a personality that I can call-upon at any time to solve any problem.

Lets say you read a book. Most people understand and can remember the Beginning; how it started, the climax and the ending. Lets say you wanted to remember more... such as small minute details of the characters or settings.
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Things you would not consciously remember. This is where you could say "hey____" in your minds eye and call upon your subconscious personality and get the answer you need. After all your subconscious is always- always paying attention.

Need to Ace a test and only studied once? Call upon your subconscious personality in the present moment. After all he/she knows all the answers.

Its like those crazy stories you hear, how on rare occasion someone hears a guitar solo. And then sits down with the guitar and plays it perfectly- Even if that person has never touched a musical instrument in his life.

Theirs one other example that was in the news recently...
A man was in a coma and woke up speaking perfectly-perfectly fluent Chinese (I think it was) language. His primary language was English. He took a couple classes in Chinese but never practiced... and that was 5 or 10 years before the coma.



To be honest... creating personalities even one with counter goals as yourself is extremely counter-productive. Your subconscious will always win right? Why not make it work for your goals?


Instead of you being the little boat vs the cruise ship... be the rudder on the cruise ship and take your subconscious mind consciously by the reigns.


Have any of you seen Sherlock? I believe the main character is just like us except he is able to harness extraordinary power of detail and thinking. Making the subconscious mind enter the present moment at will.



This is what you are doing in this hypno session right? Except giving extreme free will to the subconscious mind and throwing the reigns away.


Something I will be experimenting with!

Thanks for the idea!

Ardea

:D

[OxyFemboi]

[Ardea]

So what your saying Oxy is that you have re-discovered parts of yourself that you lost?

I can see that...

Its like playing your first video-game (for me it was MMO) and your just so blown-away by the stimuli. Its awesome but then you sort of loose it. You play new games but don't have the same feeling.

hmm

Id have to say that what I want to do, I think will be very powerful... granted im fumbling in the dark until I get the right combo of words and suggestions to make it happen.

I forget who said it and exactly how it goes.

Something like "if you give it a name, you make it real..."

Im a bit bummed by the track costing $$. Albeit I want to use it as a template or what suggestions EMG uses so that I can take that and make my own flavor.

For now its just notes on paper what I want to add and such. Clauses at to the personality gaining control over your body if you were going to make a bad decision- like drinking and driving (your not thinking strait anyway) or getting into a bad confrontation and your able to think clearly and go kung-fu on the dudes ass. lol All speculative- im going out on a limb on that one.


-Ardea

[OxyFemboi]

[Ardea]

well for me im not to concerned on how this Alias or "Proxy Personality" as Zafari put it is on a personality scale. I want to give the power to the subconscious part of my mind to create ONE personality or drone(I don't know at this point) that my SC (subconscious) gets to choose the guy/girl and the name. The SC needs to come up with a name by itself so that I can do a mental "conversation" and know who im talking to.

Personality for me implies difference of goals and such which creates a push-pull tension. Im not super against but my "must-haves" are that the SC personality or proxy always listens to my commands/requests, always has itself aligned with my goals and provides a wall to prevent accumulation of bad beliefs.

You may find this far fetched. But my other goal is that this for me is a science experiment. If I want a new powerful belief, I dont want it to take 21 days (most things to learn take about 21 times or 21 days- driving a manual car and such etc. etc. etc.). If I have some knowledge about the subject (if I saw a person drive a manual car example) then I want to call upon this proxy and hopefully advance my learning ten-fold.

Again what I am suggesting has never been done by my knowledge. So it could be really awesome or kind of not-as-cool... although having a proxy personality to access my subconscious- which WE cannot do... while conscious would be cool to... well fix some things on-the-go.


You got me in the zone...

Im going to write some more on my notebooks...!!!

[OxyFemboi]

[Dazkid33]

Well, I've found myself taking the plunge into this ride, and I'm not too sure I expected what I got from the first listen.
I found myself blanking out a couple of times during the file, something that has never happened before while listening to a file. By the end of the file, I felt a tad lightheaded, nothing too serious, but just noticeable. Over the course of two hours, which is when I woke from trance to now, my first opportunity to write this, I thought I heard the occasional sound, momentary and low in volume...
I feel like this will be an interesting experience. Heck, I'm still feeling a tad lightheaded now! I'll go ahead and give it another listen, just to see if I can get through without blanking.

[OxyFemboi]

[Dazkid33]

I went ahead and gave it another listen, and yeesh, I received different results.
For one, I didn't black out during the file, so that's something. When I awoke, though, I felt rather heavy-headed, as though there was a fog. After a few minutes of being up, I practically shut down. I just stood there, hardly able to think, act, move... I was half unaware and unfamiliar with my surroundings, of which I am quite familiar with. I was just looking around the room for several minutes before I finally trudged into the kitchen for a lunch. Over the period of making food, the heavy-headedness wore off...
I really don't know what to make of this. I think I'll wait a while before I give it another listen. Could I have a rough projection of when I should be hearing her voice fairly clearly? I've been hearing the occasional... I don't know, but it's there only for a second, and seemingly incoherent.

[OxyFemboi]