Triggers vs Permanent/Curses?

[ranmafan]

Which one is likely to work better? I've tried many different permanent fox TF files over the years and none have really worked..i'm thinking of trying a triggered one.

[DKaiser]

From experience, trigger files aren't going to work better than permanent files at best, and will be harder to implement at worst. Mainly because people having trouble with a trigger file will test out the trigger, and be discouraged when it doesn't work.

I'd say go with the permanent files, but work on what sort of approach you're using. IIRC, you tended to bounce around in terms of what sort of files you wanted; try coming up with a proper mental image of what you want to sense, and stick with it. Immediately before listening to a file, bring that image to mind, and think about all the various ways it differs from your current body image. Having those sorts of memories fresh in the mind will help the file take better effect, while bouncing between different images over time will just confuse it.

[ranmafan]

[DKaiser]

Describe your trancing, in as much detail as you can recall. Also, how long does a given trance feel, in relation to the play length of the files?

[ranmafan]

well this is assuming the induction is good..my mind wanders, quite a bit. my arms and legs start to tingle alittle, i usually close my eyes too. and in the awakener i open my eyes..sometimes (not all) it does take a lil while for me to move my arms or legs tho.

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[kitsukat]

"Permanent" things tend to wear off if you don't listen to them enough, but triggers are meant to condition you to take an automatic response to things. Not to mention that curses happen all the time while triggers can be used when you need them.

I've found that triggers work better overall for the desired effect, but some triggers require a second party to make them work. Triggers, for me, stick around longer. Though both curses and triggers require you to listen to them until they become habit.

[bismarck1425]

Just enter this topic by searching the difference between curse and permanent. I am actually curious what's the difference. From browsing the website, I know that curse can be removed by specific person. If this is the case, I believe permanet will last forever, or it will become less effective when you stop listening to the files? If this is the case, is permanent tend to be worse than curse?

[kitsukat]

Curses are intended to be a permanent thing with benefits and consequences. If somebody wanted to get rid of it, they would have to go to the hypnotist and pay for that file to be removed, and even that may not work at times depending on how intense the file is.

Permanent files can be removed with a deprogram all, and don't have big consequences at all.

That's what makes curses so dangerous.

For me, though, I haven't really found anything that has had much of a lasting effect on me if I stop listening to it for a period of time. It just wears off after a while.