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[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_hypnosis#Covert_hypnosis_in_the_media[/url]

If your looking for it, it might not work as well. But I think there is actually a thinly veiled attempt at covert hypnosis on the wikipedia page about covert hypnosis. How cute is that?

With the punctuation and structure, it creates expectation, then there some misdirection, and then the suggestion.

But it could just be bad editing. Regardless, I was reading this late at night, and it didn't quite make sense so I reread it a few times. And then it hit me, that might have been the intention... Maybe.

Any agree or disagree? Am I crazy, or is that not a tricky section? I think given the content of the page, that it probably was by design.

I think you are giving the editors way too much credit. If this is the line you are talking about:

* Note: The majority of these examples are presentational story lines of professional magicians. The belief that these tricks use hypnosis is equal to believing anything you may see on a television entertainment program to be factual.

What is the 'suggestion' and what is the point of putting a suggestion here?

This may be an attempt to confuse, and I agree this is confusing, but what is the suggestion?

Yup, thats it. With the colon and the bulleted list, and the first example in the bulleted list not being an example at all, but a badly written explanatory note.

The suggestion I gleamed from it, is that covert hypnotic induction in the media is TV fakery. In other words, "nothing to see here, folks, move along, and let us be with our honey hole"

Maybe wrongly so, looking at it with fresher eyes.

My experience has been the grammer is generally well policed on wikipedia. That section being worded so excruciatingly bad, it seems suspicious considering the subject of the page.

I agree, I was reading too much into it. But isn't that the truth though, that perception is reality.

Really think you're lucky, and you'll find examples all day that support the notion.

I like to believe there's more out there than there really is. I like to think there is some kind of dirty evil conspiracy within our country for the banks to enslave and stupify us all.

It's way sexier than the more probable notion that our politicians are boobs who can't or won't regulate the bigger leagues of the financial industry, and no one cares.

I get debt does indeed create money. And it is pretty much right out of thin air.

But so does a farmers market. Provide the right conditions for the right seeds, and months later dress up like a hillbilly and you too can have people give you money for food that didn't exist before.

And essentially out of nothing, a little more wealth is created.

Of course, that's over simplified, there's alot of overhead and leg work that goes into farming and proper hillbilly attire, but I think it's fair to say the same is true for a mortgage company.

To some extent at least.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in a nutshell, all this means is the rich will continue to get richer, easier and faster - essentially the pitfall of unchecked capitalism - when the wealth and power accumulates with a lucky few?

That's evil, but I wouldn't think it's a conspiracy. Its just the nature of beast.

Easy there big boy. I'm unarmed.

There is some work when it comes to a mortgage. The lender has to carefully evaluate the risks, and more importantly, they have to come up with the funding.

Which isn't easy, unless you've been doing loans for some time.

I'll admit, I don't think there is any defense of fractional reserve banking.

But...... If you want to be part of the larger overall conspiracy, you can always sell a house yourself, and do owner financing. It's not common, but it's certainly not unheard of.

Or easier yet, I can't think of the name, but there's a website almost in the style of Ebay, where lenders (which could be you, me, or anyone else) can browse people wanting to borrow money. They're listed by their credit score, and the ads feature some of the details about why they wante the money.

Come! Come to the dark side, Bandler!