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WarpMyMind • View topic - Covert hypnosis via reading
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Covert hypnosis via reading

PostPosted: June 5th, 2011, 6:16 pm
by Storms
How possible is it? Any opinions?

Obviously there's some level of trance when reading a good book and hours fly by, but would it be feasible to get deep enough to make suggestions? And would it be possible to do it without someone's knowledge?

I have no use for it, I just find covert hypnosis fascinating and a little bit scary.

Kind of like Sarnoga's voice. :^)

PostPosted: June 6th, 2011, 6:08 pm
by HypnotizeMike
Well, any reference to "Close your eyes" would be useless when trying to hypnotize someone from a book. But, I think it is possible to read a script and become hypnotized. A script is just like audio in that it is directing your thoughts. But, I don't think you could just slip in a hypnosis chapter in the middle of Harry Potter without the person reading the book noticing.

Re: Covert hypnosis via reading

PostPosted: June 8th, 2011, 5:50 pm
by ck

PostPosted: June 13th, 2011, 4:40 pm
by Mutazoa
might have to try writing up something along this line...just to see if it could be done... :twisted:

PostPosted: August 13th, 2011, 12:10 am
by qv
Of course it's possible.
Look at it this way; can you think of a moment where you're reading something, maybe fiction, maybe not, it doesn't really matter, but it just has some sort of style where the more you read the less you really think about what it's saying? Your eyes continue passing by each word, each letter, but the more you read the more your attention goes elsewhere, which of course is completely natural, because there's no reason for it not to be. You may even start thinking that you've completely read and understood what you've looked at, even though you immediately forget every word you pass by, which is perfectly fine to you because your eyes keep on going by anyways, because you know that on some level, you are reading the words you are looking at, so you can keep on going and forget about whether you remember reading the words. In fact, these sorts of writings are so mind-numbing, they can even change the subject without anyone noticing, because when you start forgetting words that your eyes are passing by, you can even start forgetting things like numbers, or more specifically, the number six, because your eyes pass by, but you forget these things so well that until at least an hour after reading this, you think to yourself that what you are going through by reading this is perfectly natural, and that everything this post has said is true, even if you find it impossible to know for sure what was written, or what the number between five and seven is, because until an hour has passed, you won't know these things, or even realize that there are any gaps in your knowledge of this post or your knowledge of numbers. Of course, as you reach the end of this post, you must realize that what I've said has had an effect on you, whether you know it or not, because as you start becoming aware of words again, you must realize that language is designed to affect people; the only question is whether language can purposely be used that way. Sometimes, definitely, but... well, I guess it depends on how you look at the purpose of writing...
Oh, and your definition of covert.

So tl;dr: It depends... what's 3+3?

LOL

PostPosted: August 13th, 2011, 3:55 pm
by joecomp2000
nice attempt ... very eriksonian...!!

PostPosted: August 13th, 2011, 9:20 pm
by qv
Oh, why thank you. Was interested in it for a time, but I didn't want to try it on friends, and didn't feel right trying it on random people either. This is probably the one instance wherein it is most acceptable.
Anyways, one other method is to embed signals in text, usually through improper capitalization or very slightly different fonts/font sizes. The shorter the suggestion, the sweeter (three's a great number).
So for example:
"just learned what the word Whet means. you Yourself would have if you were here right NOW"
As you can see, the suggestion can also work through homophones (goddamn new directions), and there's a certain sweet spot with just how much sense to make. If it makes the right amount of sense, the conscious mind will simply shrug it off, but the subconscious will pick up on the fact that there is actually something you're communicating. Tried it with a friend while I was watching Inception (he was partying with friends on-campus), texted him "experts Call inception film At its finest; Twelve out of ten stars... we will see". As luck would have it, the movie lasted until half-past midnight, so I checked and he did indeed call at midnight. Unfortunately, this was because the party had moved across town, and I couldn't get a ride. And there was a blizzard.
That 45 minute walk was only worth it for the mindfuck I had that morning...

So yeah, if you can't tell, I write much more than I need to, which can hurt or hinder based on what it is you're trying to do, so think carefully about what you write. And for the love of god, if highways are shutting down from the snowfall, make sure you know which way you're going.

PostPosted: August 14th, 2011, 12:25 am
by Jeshi

PostPosted: August 14th, 2011, 1:04 am
by qv
... my first attempt, and first success, with this method?
...
......
......MY PENIS SALUTES YOU, PROUD SIR OR MADAM

PostPosted: August 14th, 2011, 8:20 am
by Blink

PostPosted: August 14th, 2011, 5:22 pm
by qv
Um... who's Ross Jeffries?
Though I'm sure it's intended to make no sense to me either way....
I'm a tad curious as to what the suggestion was supposed to be, since all I noticed was stuff about going into trance easier, which while helpful, isn't exactly as showy as one would hope for.
So.....
:?:

EDIT: I say this because the paragraphs second from the top and second from the bottom have all sorts of sexual euphemisms, but I can't imagine why you would put outside the trance-induction segment if that effect is what you were looking for. Besides which, not interested in being the meat to your hamburger buns, sorry.

PostPosted: August 14th, 2011, 6:12 pm
by Jeshi
Is anybody else baffled by that post qv made?
edit: Talking about the "MY PENIS SALUTES YOU SIR" post.

PostPosted: August 14th, 2011, 6:33 pm
by Blink

PostPosted: August 14th, 2011, 7:48 pm
by qv

PostPosted: August 14th, 2011, 8:33 pm
by Jeshi

PostPosted: August 15th, 2011, 3:42 am
by icedragon
you know when you get tot he bottem of a thread and can't realy rember what you read...

thought the answer to the sum was 5.5 :) but know better now

PostPosted: August 15th, 2011, 8:42 am
by qv

PostPosted: August 15th, 2011, 10:07 am
by icedragon
it was quite well worded, now that i have reread it and not gone under with it this time.

thank you

PostPosted: August 15th, 2011, 8:12 pm
by Blink

PostPosted: August 16th, 2011, 7:42 pm
by angel123

PostPosted: August 16th, 2011, 8:37 pm
by qv

PostPosted: August 16th, 2011, 10:29 pm
by Jeshi

PostPosted: August 16th, 2011, 10:51 pm
by qv

PostPosted: August 18th, 2011, 4:29 pm
by angel123

PostPosted: September 3rd, 2011, 9:46 pm
by daved
Blink, I wish you were my neighbor.

PostPosted: September 13th, 2011, 12:45 am
by qv

PostPosted: September 13th, 2011, 4:29 am
by sarnoga
Greetings,

It being rude and inconsiderate to jump into a thread without knowlege of its course or the means by which it arrived in its present condition or the arguments that contributed as well as the ground covered prior to the current post, which validates Glinda's statement to Gale that it is always best to start at the begining, I followed the aforementioned advice without achieving a satisfactory understanding of the intricacies involved sufficient to avoid an appearance of ignorance, and so concluded that Billie Burke may have been mistaken or perhaps misinformed, as Rick claimed to be after indicating that he had relocated to to his current city of residence for the waters, yet still was trusted by one who felt despised, when the former could only speculate as to the truth of that statment, having claimed to have given no thought to the latter, which in turn was probably less than truthful considering the speakers aptitude for observation and consideration, all of which is only a failed attempt at illumination considering the fictional nature of the obscure exchange, yet still could and perhaps should be set in contrast with, and viewed in light of, the sentiment, that people with an extensive lyrical knowlege may have heard expressed, that sometimes shutting up is the best way to speak your mind, which in turn is similar to saying that if you have nothing to say the very least you can do is to shut up, additional advise from Mr. Lehrer I may have done well to heed, rather than repeat, but seem to have disregarded in favor of another course of action which, I would argue, is understandable considering my poor experience with favored advice earlier in this post, as well as the investimet expended to review the purview of statments previously articulated, none of which brings us to any conclusion beyond that which could be obtained by simple observation, and indeed has proceeded entirely wihout comment on the merits of the text composed by previous contributors, and when considered in context can be said to have imparted nothing of substance to the reader nor to have possessed any residual value, and might best be evaluated by some method chosen for the purpose of revealing hidden meanings, the suggestion of which may serve to conceal the complete absence of meaningful communication in the current post as well as anything else worthy of consideration, perhaps with a few insignificant exceptions, the totality serving only the purpose of consumption of time with perhaps an incidental deleterious affect on consentration, in addition to an unknown effect on the mood, disposition, and sence of wellbeing as percieved by the consumer of the text, all of which could be used resorsefully to distract from the origins of the current matter while obscuring any attempt to be obtuse from either perspective, as well as any delusion of having enlightened the reader, or pretension of having engaged in a worthwhile exchange, hidden or otherwise, with any person living or dead while at the same time misdirecting attention from abysmal punctuation to less than stellar spelling, none of which has any relation to the current topic, yet the writing of which was accomplished with an unwarranted degree of relish, and should be accompanied by sufficient appologies to avoid unwanted, though possibly deserved anymosity, and so it is hoped such appolgies will be inferred even though not explicitly stated, while excluding from the appologies the obvious delight derived from subjecting readers to such a large block of uninterrupted words without the benefit of any paragraph breaks or other conventions normally used to aid in the processing of text.

Thus after careful consideration I feel compelled to make the following comment.... HUH?

Regards,

Sarnoga

PostPosted: September 13th, 2011, 8:40 am
by qv

PostPosted: September 13th, 2011, 9:09 pm
by guyincognito88
lol, keep reading, qv. Maybe you'll get it someday.

PostPosted: September 13th, 2011, 10:32 pm
by ray2
srry sarnoga line 34 has a misspelling through me way off this post go sox go pats lol

PostPosted: September 13th, 2011, 10:50 pm
by Jeshi

PostPosted: September 13th, 2011, 10:57 pm
by qv

PostPosted: September 14th, 2011, 6:56 pm
by Jeshi

PostPosted: September 16th, 2011, 12:52 pm
by rawk
Can this thread never die? Cuz that would be great.

PostPosted: September 16th, 2011, 7:32 pm
by qv

PostPosted: December 26th, 2011, 12:05 am
by Jamess14
Basically Sarnoga expressed joy at making the reader, read through it all,looking for meaning while stating that it actually has none.
Read it quite fast, just needed to maintain concentration on the words themselves and consciously avoid getting misdirected or confused that would in turn make you just glaze over the sentences without actually understanding them.

tl,dr: Rant about making you read the wall of text. :wink:

PostPosted: January 2nd, 2012, 1:20 pm
by darkhypnoking

PostPosted: January 3rd, 2012, 3:41 am
by Jeshi

PostPosted: January 3rd, 2012, 10:37 am
by Kanibal

PostPosted: January 5th, 2012, 10:39 pm
by Midnight68652
To put my two cents in *pays the toll booth*

Reading covert hypnotism works. But just like in person you have to make it so they don't notice it consciously. Which makes it a lot harder considering in order for their conscious mind out of it would mean completely distracting them with huge runnons. It is just the same way how people do it in real life where they do something to make a subconscious link to the word or letter they want in your mind. Most use a form of touching. They would be talking to you or telling you a story and touch you lightly when they hit something in the story they wanted you to know. Thus your conscious mind is distracted taking in what they are saying and your subconscious says hey he touched me and when the he touched me and the work/letter hit it imbeds it in your mind. Temporarily.

Though i'm more of a fan of text hypnotism. Where you get them to submit and hypnotize them over Im :D

PostPosted: January 18th, 2012, 3:04 am
by mecdual
this is very interesting
do you know where i can find something in french ?

PostPosted: August 27th, 2012, 2:16 pm
by maxwell501

PostPosted: August 30th, 2012, 12:00 pm
by stagman1234
3+3=7 i would have thought that would be obvious.

PostPosted: October 23rd, 2012, 11:17 pm
by Scarlett_S
The number thing didn't work and Blink's post about fishing for a strange email and cheese sauce don't make any sense...

PostPosted: November 10th, 2012, 4:00 am
by dingusguy

PostPosted: December 4th, 2012, 5:09 am
by Anthrochocobo

the chocolate article

PostPosted: December 19th, 2012, 5:41 pm
by Misterbradd
great read!

PostPosted: March 1st, 2013, 9:38 pm
by PowerHoden
To understand Hypnosis in general and specifically through chat one must understand how a trance works.

After all a trance is just your mind getting calmer and calmer while your thoughts slow down. The more your mind calms and your thoughts slow down, the deeper you get into trance.
Your mind might still wander around, might think about how deep you go or simply follow my words. It doesn't matter anyway, since you just need to let it flow and let go of control. Control is an illusion anyway. You can't even control every aspect of your body. So all you need to do is to let go of it during a trance.

You want to let go anyway. You remember those times you were letting go and how good it felt and it came so naturally.
Just like when you are drowsing. It comes so naturally. Everyone trances daily and your mind is aware of what a trance is, because it is as common as breathing or blinking. It is so common, that most of the time we can't even tell when we are slipping and going down. Your consciousness isn't even realizing, when you are slipping into this pleasant state of mind. That would just mean you were fighting a pleasant feeling. Why would you do that? Of course you wouldn't. There is no reason to fight it.

Your consciousness isn't realizing when you are slipping simply because your perception is limited. Your mind is filtering out all those unnecessary information of yours, because else you would have an overload of thoughts. There is no one who wants to be overwhelmed by that. Instead it is so much more pleasant to enjoy letting go and to let your perception becomes more and more limited during a trance.
Imagine a time you were very relaxed listening to someone's sweet voice, getting massaged and relaxing moments like this. Imagine how that made you feel and how easy it was to enjoy that feeling. And you can enjoy that feeling of letting go at any time.

All you need to do is to believe in the power of your mind. Your mind is so incredibly powerful that it can let you feel an emotion easily. Your mind can make you feel pleasant, warm, and relaxing with ease. You just need to let your mind help you to relax.
There is no need for you to think about, if you are in a trance now or not. You are already in a trance anyway. You are just slipping deeper and deeper with each of my words.
After all, it is what you want and what you desire. You want to feel relaxed and pleasant, you want to let go and you want to enjoy those warm feelings, because it makes you feel good. And feeling good is something everyone desires.

As you give in to this pleasant feeling, you feel my words sinking into your mind more and more easily. You feel yourself sinking into each of my words while your mind is calming and slowing down so far, that you start getting a few black spots in your memory. A few unnecessary words missing here and there. Yet still somehow focusing on the key words while your consciousness will still think it is in control and can remember superficial content. But how would you know, if you can remember something, if you actually can't? Your consciousness just talks itself into it for the sake of staying in control, while it isn't in control anymore. Being in control is an illusion and you want to let go of this illusion, because it makes you feel so very good.

All you need to do is to accept that you aren't in control most of the time. Just believe in surrendering and letting go while the black spots in your mind are growing and growing. You are forgetting more and more about the trance aside from some keywords. And the more you surrender, the more relaxed you feel.
Your mind is slowly calming down so far, that your thoughts are going blank. My words are becoming your thoughts and your mind will just stand still while waiting for my words as you enjoy the relaxing and pleasant feeling of letting go. You enjoy giving away control so much, that it makes you feel so very good and relaxed.

It is just a matter of time until you are blanking out completely. Just a matter of time until you will let go of the last little bit of control you believe you have. But that's the interesting part about beliefs. It's only a belief, if you believe in it. As soon as you stop believing into having control, you will be free of that restriction. As soon as you give up on the illusion of control and believe that I can easily make you fall into trance, you will just fall deeper and deeper.

With each time you go into trance, it will become easier and easier for you to go deeper into a trance. Each breath you take and each thought you still have is taking you deeper until you are free of thoughts during this trance as it makes you feel so very good and relaxed while it is slowly making you aroused to surrender.

Each time I am waking you up, you will have a harder time remembering the content of the trance. With each time you go into trance and the deeper you go it gets harder to remember. Getting so very deep into trance and giving up control to my words until my words are becoming your thoughts. Surrendering like this and giving in to me is making you aroused. Letting go is making you more and more aroused the longer you are in a trance. You will feel the arousal spreading into your entire body. In each and every inch of your body and it will keep growing and growing. The arousal will constantly increase.
You will feel how you are becoming more aroused. How your blood will be rushing through your body from arousal. How your breathing gets heavier and heavier. How your body is getting more sensitive and how you desire to get so very aroused for me.

And I will just tell you that your arousal will keep on growing. It might get to the edge of orgasm. If you were already at the edge, it will even bring you beyond the edge of orgasm.
Then I would just announce a small count to 3 to wake you up. When I will do this count you will be aware that you were in a trance and how good and arousing it felt while you will still be unable to remember the content. Your arousal will still keep growing as you are awake and you will also have some feeling of achievement that you have been in a hypnotic trance. And with each time you were in trance, it will become easier to go even deeper the next time.

As you feel your arousal still growing I would start counting up to awake you. With each count you would get more awake while your arousal would keep growing and an increasing desire to comment on this text about how aroused you are. I would then start to count 1 and 2 and 3 and you were awake again.

Feel free to read it through any time you want for the desired effect.

PostPosted: March 3rd, 2013, 2:20 am
by Jeshi
^Very good!

PostPosted: March 3rd, 2013, 10:09 am
by PowerHoden
Thanks. I hope you enjoyed it afterwards as well ;)