What works well for "rational" personalities?

[actofgod]

Hello all,

I was wondering if anyone had suggestions for "rational" personality types. I've been trying hypnosis files for a while now but cannot seem to "go under" with any of the different inductions. I can feel extremely relaxed during hypnosis (where I feel like I am floating and sometimes have involuntary muscle twitches), but the suggestions never stick. I've tried simple ones like trigfreeze2, and others that I would really like to see results from, but no luck. I started practicing a lot with TrainSusceptible and Deepening, and have also tried other voices, but it just doesn't seem to have any effect on me. I suspect part of it is my personality; I tend to overanalyze things like this.

I am currently trying brainwave entrainment (not binaural beats, but pulses produced by the Neuro-Programmer 2 software) as a replacement for the standard "progressive relaxation" induction. I am using it to try to reach the appropriate mental state and then playing a suggestion file (sans induction). The software automatically plays the file after the appropriate brainwave frequency has been reached. Has anyone else tried this or something similar?

Any other ideas would be appreciated.

Aside: If you'd like more info on brainwave entrainment the makers of NP2 have lots of info/research on their website. Start at http://www.transparentcorp.com/products/np/brainwaves.php. They also have some interesting research on subliminals; their conclusion is that they have no effect. All I know is that they have no effect on me. ;)

[GrimIronMan]

I had your same problem with muscle twitches and used to overanalyze. I used the file My-mind-is-happy and these problems were ended. I hope this helps.

~_-Grim-_~

[makidas]

[Psychomech]

I have been listening to the files here for months now... never went under but as soon as i tried them with neuro Programmer.... I went under the first time. Not only into a trance but a DEEP trance.

[BobbyS]

Try a bit of self-hypnosis - that way your mind can't wonder as it's too busy on performing hypnosis.

[MikeWulf]

I still have other thoughts slipping in during self hypnosis...

[BobbyS]

Then you're not concentrating hard enough. Seriously, count to ten right now and REALLY concentrate. If thoughts are still slipping in then I'm out of ideas.

[maskedwomyn]

[MikeWulf]

Why do people use hypnosis to do thigns they could do them selves? It doesnt make sense. I don't need hypnosis to wear a dress or to suck a cock or to call someone Master.

[missypuss]

Then perhaps you just "Dont Need" Hypnosis period Mike...
Ever considered that as an answer to your question??
And in response to actofgod .. I found my first few experiences with hypnosis the same as you but then I listened to "susceptable" a few times and found that things were happening with the other files..
I guess you just got to want it!! :twisted:

[MikeWulf]

I wan't hypnosis to do the things that I cannot do myself.

[missypuss]

Such As?? :?:

[BobbyS]

Just taking a wild guess here but I assume he means things like physical hallucinations, perceived sensations and hypnosis-induced sexual hijinks (e.g. TrigOrgasm, CurseCCP).
I have to say I agree with him - what is the point of hypnosis to 'make' you cross-dress? If you wanted to, you would, if you didn't want to, why are you listening to the file and if it's because you're too nervous, just use a general 'lowered inhibitions' hypnosis file from the web - you'll also have a better idea of what it is you really want too.

[MikeWulf]

[GrimIronMan]

[BobbyS]

I follow but I thought if you couldn't bring youirself to do it, that means the file wouldn't work - because your subconscious doesn't agree with it.

[MikeWulf]

That is right, Bobby. Your concious and subconcious can even disagree.

[GrimIronMan]

[sandy82]

[missypuss]

I think that file came from someone called Daffydoc...?

[Phoenix-D]

[sandy82]

[GrimIronMan]

Yes, verb tenses are important.

As Phenoix-D mentioned, it was from this website. I was still in training to be more susceptible to hypnosis at the time, and I decided to try it. It worked quite well. I'm pretty sure it was that, because I had just added it that day. I reccomend this to people who are also still in training, along with the ones you should be using, namely Deepening2 and SublimTrainSusceptible. And yes, I think in the file description, EMG does say that it came from another website. If it's hard to believe, try it out. Its pretty intresting. They may have used NP2 (Neuro-Programmer 2). If they did, I'm definitaly buying something soon.

[MikeWulf]

I am going to agree with Deepening2 and SublimTrainTrance. The first is one of the better induction records and the content is sound. The subliminal is effective and conveniant.

[Yourplaything]

Right well downloaded "My Mind is Happy" now do I just listen to it or chant along?

[sandy82]

[fmob]

[Yourplaything]

Also I suggest if you have Virtual Hypnotist trying the induction "Seven Plue Or Minus Two" it worked a treat for me :D

[missypuss]

That is also on this site..
One of the Robot File inductions I think you will find??

[goldragon_70]