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Fluidity of Triggers

Posted:
February 2nd, 2010, 11:57 am
by justplainbeth
Ok, so we all know the trigger "_____ now" and "stop _____ now" but rather than giving a specific set of words, can a trigger be more like a circumstance or an idea, like something he would more normally say to me when he would want something to happen? Would that fall more into behavior modification rather than a trigger, per se? If so, are the hypno-scripts all that different? Ok... Enough questions for one post. :)
Beth

Posted:
February 2nd, 2010, 6:58 pm
by BeMine
I'd certainly say it's possible. I also believe that suggestions given with "natural" triggers typically go a little bit easier on the listener than ones that are blunt, and have a mechanical feel.
If you truly wanted the trigger to be more "conversational" or "flowing," or however you'd like to call it, the script would probably be a little different, but not by much. You'd probably want to modify said script to something that would feel "easy" to listen to, in a way where you'd feel the natural response to the trigger was to just do whatever you were meant to do.
Re: Fluidity of Triggers

Posted:
February 2nd, 2010, 10:12 pm
by MN_FriendlyGuy

Posted:
February 3rd, 2010, 3:47 am
by zapnosis
I always think that the most important thing with triggers is to keep them simple. Freeze triggers are quite popular, and staying still is quite easy. But if I tried to install a trigger that when I snapped my fingers, the listener would immediately write a 3000-word essay on the effectiveness of Bombay's traffic management sytems... well, that's not going to work! Think about what barriers there are to the person complying with the command, because every barrier will make it harder to install the trigger.
Words are the best triggers because we automatically listen to language that we can understand, and we try to attach meaning to it. But yes, triggers can be pretty much anything, as long as it can easily be recognised. Make the trigger itself definite and easy to identify, e.g. using a feeling of warmth as the trigger is difficult because how warm is warm?
ZAP

Posted:
February 3rd, 2010, 9:45 am
by justplainbeth
I'm digging this forum. Thank you everyone.... I tried my first scripts out last night, they seem to work well but I have been able to tell where a few flaws are. And, this means, of course, re-writing a few things but by the end of the week I should know if it works for me.
Before I post the file, I need to check with a few people to see if I can use parts of their scripts in an uploaded file. :)
Beth

Posted:
February 13th, 2010, 4:49 pm
by FloridaPuppy

Posted:
February 24th, 2010, 2:04 am
by Glasnerven

Posted:
February 24th, 2010, 5:33 am
by zapnosis
Glasnerven, if you want to imagine that you can be 100% sure that nobody can mess with your head, then don't trance. That simple.
However, if you think about all the conditioning that gets pumped at us every day (e.g. brands, logos, adverts, media, education, etc), this is just a drop in the ocean. If you live in the same world as the rest of us, then your mind is not pure. You might as well enjoy it if you can.
As to the "prep work", if you black out during trance (i.e. you can't remember the session), then it is possible that you won't know what's happening. Otherwise, you should be able to recognise it. Suggestions like:
"when you hear the word <****>, you will immediately <whatever>"
"this will happen every time you hear the word <****>"
These would likely be repeated several times. Plus maybe some practice with the trigger, unless it is something very physical. The point of hypnotic suggestions is that they are direct and clear - it shouldn't be hard to recognise the intent.

Posted:
February 24th, 2010, 1:31 pm
by darkenedav

Posted:
February 24th, 2010, 6:21 pm
by zapnosis
Or just try to convince an english-speaking person that a particular combination of symbols (ELEPHANT) has absolutely nothing to do with large grey land-based mammals. They will look at you like you're mad, and yet there is nothing in that series of symbols that even remotely resembles such an animal.
Conditioning is VERY powerful. At least, that's what my parents always said...

Posted:
February 25th, 2010, 2:34 am
by darkenedav

Posted:
February 25th, 2010, 4:22 am
by zapnosis
If they actually exist... :D