conflicting views

[spudamore]

i know there are many conflicting views within the hypnotherapy field. just one to do with habits and such, a little thing i have noticed, i am a bit of a bandler fan, and people that have studied under him, this line of hypnosis/nlp, alot of the belief is that you can put a stop to any habit without it reforming it into something else, eg smoke tastes like (worst food you ever had) ect... time distortion will smoking, ect...,

but in another aspect i tend to see a trend within australia, that if you have unresolved issues with that habit it will reform into another psychological disorder? it just seems that this line of thinking is more to do with psychology rather than hypnosis

has there been any studies or such that conforms with the latter?

just with some peoples experience around me, aversion therapy and resolving the unresolved haven't worked with smoking and other habits.

basically what i am saying is it ethical, to take ones "free will" away to help the subject to become a healthier/better person? i know this is a major part of hypnotherapy to not to take away "free will" and teach it in the majority of hypnotherapy classes, does it differ around the world?

[User517]

As far as I know, it's alot easier to redirect a persons impulses or energies toward another thing than to try and stop them. The reason why something like smoking might manifest itself in another way after treatment is because these energies were not directed toward anything, or it was directed toward something which did not offer similar feelings.

Free will doesn't exist as we like to think it does. We are brainwashed to believe that we should all have jobs and earn money to trade for goods, and to decide which goods are better for us based on their packaging and advertisements. From the first day we draw breath we have people telling us how we should live our lives. Free will really only applies in those gaps between socialized actions, where we can make those important decisions; paper or plastic. Agree or disagree, but within that context, how is hypnosis which aims to improve someone's life at the cost of some minor freedom any different?

[spudamore]

hence the quotation marks : :D
thanks for the comment
then why do hypno schools teach the "free will" ethic?

[Alien4420]

[whatthe75]

[whatthe75]

[User517]

[spudamore]

[whatthe75]

No.

As i said it is a combination of techniques.

1- install a stop yourself behaviour first ( eg take a time when you stop yourself doing something because you know its wrong ) and push the smoking thoughts into that.So that you can stop yourself if the desire returns.

2 - then with the addiction part - you go through until you find out the trigger that makes you want to smoke.Then install a new behaviour ( seeing everyone around you smoke and watching them enjoy it and enjoying knowing you dont need to smoke.) when this trigger happens replacing the old desire.This can be done with just a swish pattern - but i like to make sure with the combination of using a swish and also some time line installation to cement it.

These two techniques is enough to stop someone smoking,but i also like to add some more ( like belief change and motivation changes ) to really make sure.