A thought about driving

by **JadynMC** » January 24th, 2009, 3:53 pm

I was in my car today and I heard the engine at a low rumble and the thought came to mind about low frequencies. I wonder if some cars engines produce low frequencies in the theta range or so which would help cause people to go into trance while driving, plus the other causes.

drip

by **whatthe75** » January 24th, 2009, 4:20 pm

If they did you wouldn't hear them anyway.The frequencies that are that level ( i believe around the 5-8hz) are below 20hz which is the limit of our hearing.

Brian waves work by playing two different frequncies,one on each ear.They would only be diffenremces of about 5- 8hz.The brain detects the difference between them and the effect works from there.

by **Calimore** » January 25th, 2009, 12:15 pm

Interesting thread...

In actuality, whatthe75 is referring to 'binaural beats', an effect used to create a specified frequency (or frequencies) within the mind of a listener.

While the frequency range dldrip is talking about may be below our threshold of awareness, that doesn't mean that it cannot effect us. Lower frequencies tend to travel and resonate quite well. I would not be surprised to find that there are loud sounds created by motor vehicles that are in the theta range, but I would be surprised to find that they didn't produce sounds in the other frequency ranges which effect the human mind, too (especially delta).

Want to get a colicky baby to sleep when nothing else works? Go for a drive - it works almost every time. And I cannot count how many times, as a child, I was lulled off into slumber after 20 minutes or more of just riding in a car.

Unfortunately, I doubt anyone of importance in Detroit would give a rat's ass about this kind of thing, but I bet there might be an engineer at Honda or Subaru, or maybe at SAAB, that would like to ponder and maybe even study this concept. Ultimately, this may be an addressable safety issue. A company that broke ground in this field could possibly use it to leverage themselves into a more favorable market position in what has become a very competitive industry.

by **JadynMC** » January 25th, 2009, 4:50 pm

I understand binaural beats what if in a 4 cylinder car that one set of pistons was set to one frequency and the other set of pistons was set to be the 5hz off then you would get binaural beats off of your engine. But ya I totally agree with you calimore that the car companies should do some research here.

p.s. actually it dawned on me that it probably would be the sound of the tires on the asphalt minus the noise of the engine.

drip

by **Blink** » January 25th, 2009, 8:03 pm

The entrainment has more to do with hitting the right frequencies than with how you get there.

The object of the game is to generate a frequency in the range specified above (and previously on this site and in frequency tables on other sites, links all in the archives). The problem is that the frequencies you're trying to get to are below the threshold of human hearing and the capacity of most audio equipment to generate.

The mechanical operation of the car might generate the right frequency of its own accord. (And I'd expect that an acoustical engineer would have checked it along the way, probably when checking the general acoustical characteristics of the cabin.) But it's not a frequency that you can record and play back, 'cause the audio equipment can't handle it.

If your headphones won't play it, how do you get it in your head? A cute audio trick.

The theory of binaural beats is that if you play two frequencies that are offset a little and pipe one in one ear and one in the other, what your brain hears is the difference between the two. That way you can generate the 7 Hz or so that you want to create without having to invest tens of thousands of dollars in equipment.

There are tons of articles online about what frequencies are good for what states of mind and how to get from one to another. The archives here are rich. Google is your friend.

-- Blink

by **kiboe** » January 25th, 2009, 8:34 pm

well, on another note about low frequincies, i am under one file (trigwerewolf) and the rumble on my tempo didn't put me under at all, so, yea,

about low frequincies, it would give one headaches more then anything, here is an example

i used to live near an Industrial Wind Turbine farm, every often when it was windy.."WHOOSH WHOOSH WHOOSH" as the blades passed the tower, it didn't phase me.

by **Blink** » January 26th, 2009, 6:45 am

I don't know where the research is with using low frequencies to get trance... or anything else for that matter.

I know that there was a lot of attention (a lot of text on the Web) about the US Navy setting up transmitter stations for low-frequency transmission. The Navy said it was trying to keep in contact with submerged submarines. The conspiracy theorists said it was all about mind control.

There's a lot of information available, but you've got to Google hard and read through it all.

The most economical methods of mind control are available right here.

-- Blink

by **Calimore** » January 26th, 2009, 3:49 pm

by **MN_FriendlyGuy** » January 27th, 2009, 6:16 am

by **Blink** » January 27th, 2009, 9:11 am

by **whatthe75** » January 27th, 2009, 4:29 pm

Wow - i have a sudden urge to Join the Air force,and start flying a plane. 8O

by **Blink** » January 28th, 2009, 12:41 pm

by **whatthe75** » January 28th, 2009, 4:24 pm

What's NLP? :?

by **Blink** » January 28th, 2009, 7:33 pm

by **whatthe75** » January 28th, 2009, 7:45 pm

Lol sorry couldn't help that one.I run my own NLP practice.

P.S. Bandler should run for president.He is god.

by **Blink** » January 29th, 2009, 10:42 am

A thought about driving

A thought about driving

hmmmm...

binaural beats

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