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WarpMyMind • View topic - Does hypnosis work if english isn't my native language?
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Does hypnosis work if english isn't my native language?

PostPosted: July 15th, 2005, 11:30 am
by latexstudent81
Hi,

does hypnosis work if english isn't my native language? i'm asking because i'm german. i can understand all the files, but i must concentrate to do this.
can i get an effect anyway?

PostPosted: July 15th, 2005, 11:34 am
by vienna68
Ja, es funktioniert auch, wenn man nicht perfekt englisch kann.
Manche meinen sogar, dass es besser funktioniert wenn man in einer Fremdsprache hypnotisiert wird...

PostPosted: July 15th, 2005, 11:47 am
by latexstudent81
Danke für die schnelle Antwort. Ich werde es probieren!

viele Grüße nach Wien ;)

PostPosted: July 16th, 2005, 5:27 pm
by tantetruus
same goes for me,

im from holland.

uhm... im not good in german at all, so please repeat it in english? (or dutch :))

will i be able to go into trance? and if id be able to go into trance, would my subconciscious (???) be able to translate emg's voice? are the effects less effective this way? please answer soon...

PostPosted: July 17th, 2005, 2:22 am
by vienna68
in english:

yes, it works even if your english is not the best.
some people think, that it works even better, when you become hypnotised in a foreign language.

(I hope, everyone can understand my english)

PostPosted: July 17th, 2005, 8:19 am
by tantetruus
so i doesnt matter if i get hypnotized in say, chinese?

PostPosted: July 17th, 2005, 10:33 am
by Jack
Do you know chinese? If yes, then most likely it'll be easier to go into a trance. If no, then it depends on the skill of the chinese speaking hypnotist at using non-verbal signals.

PostPosted: July 17th, 2005, 11:24 am
by dharden
tantetruus, when you listen to a conversation or read a paragraph in English, do you normally have to think about translating it, or does it seem more like a running translation?

PostPosted: July 17th, 2005, 3:03 pm
by tantetruus
yeah i get the point. no i dont have to think to translate. well, the chinese was just an example. and no i dont speak a word chinese :).

PostPosted: July 17th, 2005, 4:33 pm
by sandy82

PostPosted: July 18th, 2005, 6:48 am
by latexstudent81
Thanks for all the helpfull statements!
I will test some files in the next weeks and present the results right here. :D

PostPosted: July 18th, 2005, 11:34 am
by GAYTTO
Yes I can confirm that files work on me too, and I am only at the beginning of this fantastic voyage into my inner.

Well, the trigger files have any effect yet. But I had some succes with the curses. I cannot explain why.

My question is : does the subconscious have a language ?

PostPosted: July 18th, 2005, 4:30 pm
by sandy82

PostPosted: July 18th, 2005, 7:49 pm
by Jack
The subconscious comes wired with five known "languages": Visual, Auditory, Kinesthetic, Olfactory, and Gustatory. Or in other words: Images, Sounds, Physical sensations, Smells, and Tastes. Any language developed by humans serves as a representation of these five original channels. In a mathematical formula this would be represented as - Ad(V,A,K,O,G). Now when someone says the word "fire", your brain does what is called a transderivational search to find all experiences that have been liked with that word in the past.

So your brain comes up with the following:
Ad (V , A , K , O , G )
Fire (an image of, sounds of, heat from, smell of , taste of carbon
flames and, burning , flames , smoke and, and other
smoke items things molecules
burning
If you want more information about this read about transformational linguistics, and NLP.

Now, on to your question, sandy.

Let's define the terms.

Id - irrational, emotional part of the mind. contains basic needs and feelings.
Ego - rational part of the mind. negotiates between id and superego.
Superego - the embodiment of parental and societal values.

Conscious - that which one is aware of or can control at any given point in time.
Subconscious - that which one is unaware of or cannot control at any given point in time.

If you just want to compare the models of subconscious/conscious with freud's Id/ego/superego they would match up as follows.

Superego and ego represent the conscious part of your brain. The ego and superego are the parts that have been setup by what you've accepted from your past experiences.

Freuds' id equates to the subconscious. Irrational, emotional.

However, I don't believe the two really equate. To me, Freuds' id(I), ego(E), and superego(S) are composed of both conscious(c) and subconscious(s) parts. So it's more like there are the following: Ic/Is, Ec/Es, Sc/Ss.


The subconscious id is responsible for your basic needs to survive(eat, drink, deficate, urinate, procreate[at puberty and beyond]). The conscious id doesn't exist, it's more a part of the other two. The subconscious ego is responsible for keeping you safe and healthy. The conscious ego is responsible for keeping you emotionally happy and healthy. The subconscious and conscious superego is responsible for keeping you within the bounds of your role in society.

However, this seems to me to be inadequate. For a better model you should read Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton Wilson.

Does the subconscious have a language ?

PostPosted: July 19th, 2005, 1:05 am
by GAYTTO
Oops ! :roll:

Lesson #1 : find a comfortable place. Relax. Deeper and deeper.
Lesson #2 : Humility. Do not post a question if you're not sure to undertand the answer. :oops:

PostPosted: July 19th, 2005, 1:40 am
by sandy82