Help to trance?

[ohwowno]

I just can't do it, i can get really relaxed, but there is no other feeling beyond that. It feels nice, but the only effects i ever feel are ones i force myself to feel and those aren't anything real anyway, it's just trying to hard.

So, does anyone have advice for me to get to trance? Should i take something to make me really sleepy, like nyquil? I really want to get effects but i can't even manage a trance

[whatthe75]

[ohwowno]

[scottyboy]

Yeah, same with me, I can't stop thinking about other stuff and I get distracted by my own thoughts. Whatever file I listen to I only get a really relaxed feeling, but no results other than that. I often feel like I'm really close to going into a trance, but I still have thoughs, and if I want to move I can (sometimes I get annoyed by the fact that I can't seem to enter trance, so I just give up and take of my headphones, if I've gotten the right info, I'm not supposed to be able to that if I'm in a trance.) It's all rather confusing :(

[whatthe75]

[quote="ohwowno
i don't get it. "awake" from it? I'm not asleep, my mind keeps thinking other things for small amounts of time, i'm constantly destracted by thoughts that aren't going along with the file. I don't think i'm getting it[/quote].

No you are not getting it.The idea of what trance is that is.

Again your explanation of your experience is a very good explanation of trance.

Hypnosis is intended to contact with your Unconcious mind. When you trance, your conscious mind has no need to listen what is said. So the fact that you are having other thoughts whilst the file is playing is a very healthy sign that you are trancing well.In fact it is showing you are going quite deep.The less you hear of the file and conciouslly remember the better.This means your unconcious is listening and your Concious mind is off doing it's own thing.

As long as when at the end of the file when the suggestion to come back to conciousness is given and you do , then you are doing very well.

Carry on listening to the files you are using and CONTINUE LETTING YOUR CONCIOUS MIND DRIFT.

[Henrique]

It is it? Let the mind think other things while listening the files?!?

Now I'm confused :!: :?: 8O

[scottyboy]

[Blink]

[scottyboy]

Thank you for a thorough reply, I'll try and make some sense of it when I'm a bit more awake (just woke up you see).

[Blink]

[scottyboy]

I've tried out a new file now, 4HoursSleep, the trance I get is a lot deeper than any trance I've experienced before, but after the file ends I'm supposed to be in a super-deep trance that can be a substitute for normal sleep, however, that's not the case; I'm still in a deep trance, but I have normal thoughts, and I wouldn't call it anything like sleep, after a while I get bored and sit up.

I guess I'll just have to keep trying ... without really trying? :?

[Detestai]

Sounds an awful lot like manipulating chi in martial arts, do without trying ;)

[claymore58]

I've found from personal experience,that using one of the free spiral screen gif files helps with going into trance.
It seems to speed the process,and allows your mind to focus on the words
instead of other thoughts that may be bouncing around.