Well, I guess I am now a victim of Cal's Curse--I can no longer orgasm without permission. The file is more effective than I thought it would be.

Not sure if cal meant these for guys as well as girls, but I enjoyed them, and there's no gender-specific language in the files.

Ditto! I quit listening to the file, but I also gave up masturbation. I had found a guy here who was very cooperative in giving me permission (thanks, Dave!), and it was fun, but it's not very spontaneous when you have to wait for a response. Seems to have calmed my stress level, too. Maybe I will f...

Of course the question is, which came first, the chicken or the egg? i.e. did he really have no attraction to men before listening or did this just bring to the surface "buried desires"? They say that sexuality is fluid, especially early in life, so, yeah--if you do not ever want to be with a man yo...

My advice would be to try it again, especially (and you seem to be) if you are curious. Sometimes, even with audible voice files it takes a couple of listens for you to trust yourself and let go. Maybe you are anticipating too much and should just let it happen.

I am becoming (I think) a very good boy for Master Jekket. His voice files give me so much pleasure, and I can't wait to listen to them again. His voice is smooth, sweet and seductive.

Hope this is not too far off topic, but have you considered meditation? If you're thinking too much, "mindfulness meditation" can help clear your mind. And 10-15 minutes a day helps a lot.

Yeah, if you are determined not to go into trance, then no one can make you, against your will (unless you've been properly trained, in advance). However, conversely, if you want to go into trance, no one can stop you. In addition to the other great advice given here, I would suggest listening when ...

To quote Ralph Waldo Emerson, "Always do what you are afraid to do."

Go Stillers! Anyway, if you really want to become stupid, why don't you just watch more TV? Watching cartoons and the Three Stooges can be very relaxing, and enjoyable. You don't like watching the news--it is difficult to understand, and boring. Cartoons are funny--they make you feel good! I'ts OK t...

You are really going to enjoy the "Good Boy" or "Good Girl" file, whichever you choose!

Kaiser--maybe you just need to find the right guy.

Or maybe you enjoy the feeling of regret/guilt or have just made a habit of it. Our society does place a lot of pressure on a man to not be gay and maybe you have internalized that.

If you are really confused, perhaps counseling is the way to go. Time will help--to figure out what you really want. Whatever you do, please be safe about it.

I would have to vote for "normal voice"--if someone is straining to alter their voice, it is usually noticeable and to me anyway, distracting. Why do you think your normal voice doesn't put people under? I think the best voice is one that is soothing & relaxing, maybe a little on the slow side, ...

Good that you want more than that (sex) in life. But, "it's not all bad, is it?" (cumming) Maybe you should go to some sort of counseling or try to define better what it is that you want out of life. Although, even at the ripe old age of 49 I have to admit that I haven't completely figured that out ...

I think "society" will survive, unless you are thinking of harming someone or yourself.

"good-looking"--you are modest, I've seen your picture!

Maybe you should try something really "unconventional"--dating! :) You could go out with some guys & some girls, try to get to know them & see which you find more interesting. Maybe you would even fall in love, maybe even with someone into hypnosis. If you find the idea of being with a guy r...

As much as I love Cal's voice and hypnotic technique, I decided to let it wear off, due to the "inconvenience". However, when I finally did get with another person, I was unable to, or didn't come--not sure which, since I wasn't trying that hard. Kind of embarassing to have to ask & explain the ...

Phil--

No, I didn't feel the need to make excuses; the guy I was with is very understanding & very much into the hugging, etc. :) Don't really know if he is dom or not.

I agree totally about wanting to be more of a jock, but not a dumb one. You can wear a jock strap, you know, all the time, and it can remind you that you ARE a jock, without even thinking about it, and when it does occur to you, you can find yourself becoming spontaneously aroused.

Dave,

Hopefully you can just enjoy it & let it happen. I wouldn't fret about it or obsess about it (unless you enjoy that!) You can be attracted to all sorts of people, hopefully you will find someone you enjoy spending time with, as well.

Ray

Sleepy, I enjoyed relaxing and letting myself trance to the SM2000 site. If you desire it, you can find that your leash is ready, and you can listen to Jekket's "curse" file for me.

Dave,

Sounds like you are making some good progress :)

Now's probably a good time to talk about protection--you want to be safe, so it would be best to be prepared.

stereoxchild, you seem to be coming from a point of view that "gay is bad". If you open your mind to the possibility that "gay is good" or at least "neutral", I think you will see things differently. Personally, I have been ~99% gay as far back as I had any sexual feelings at all, but because of soc...

Klause,

The nice thing about it is that you can ask anyone for permission, even a fellow WMM user. Think about it.

Maybe I should give the file a try. ALthough I have accepted the fact that I'm gay since about age 23, I've never been entirely comfortable with it, due to religious upbringing, the threat of AIDS, etc. If you have that kind of success where a guy is flirting with you after a couple listens, then ma...

Ah, you are referring to the "legal disclaimer"--ha ha! :D

Of course it only works if you let it, but it might be difficult to resist.

Well, I listened, and I don't think it's going on my "favorites" any time soon. Kind of negative--the suggestions about feeling humiliation, and "you don't deserve a woman"--kind of silly and insulting. Then again, I've never really wanted to be with a woman--lol. I personally think the files of thr...

"the idea that having a society that's accepting of gays would lead to the end of the human species is a bit retarded"--great point--you would have to assume that homosexuality is so irresistable that no one could resist to come to this conclusion. As it is, best estimates are that 3 to 5% of people...

You might want to tell something about yourself, such as: m or f, general age group (yourself and who you are looking for), and what some of your interests are.

Klause,

You can "PM" (private message) someone here by clicking on the PM box/icon at the end of any post. In the left-hand column, under "who's online", it will tell you if you have a private message in your box.

Gozar--yeah, I would recommend against it--potential unintended consequences.

[/quote] Curiously though after this I stopped listening to *any* files, for some reason I didn't want to listen to forced straight lite anymore and didn't feel like listening to forced gay or forced gay lite. That was several days ago. Since then, I haven't been able to get turned on by pictures of...

An update on my front: I still stayed clear of all hypnosis files, although interest rises when boredom strikes. Been having lots of contrasting feelings lately between masculinity, femininity & homosexuality. Sometimes I feel interested in one way, a day later the other way.. The fem/gay feeli...

Jeshi,

I'm working on such a file. Could you send me (PM) any other suggestions you might have? I have in mind just a little bit of "kink", to make it interesting. I don't want to spoil the surprise, however.

Thanks

Dave, sounds like you have found a keeper :D

Don't worry about taking it too slow--if he's a good guy, he won't push you. If it's meant to be, the two of you will find a way to make it happen.

Well, I listened to the file again--just because you all seem to enjoy it so much! I don't think it's going to do much for me, but who knows? I really do enjoy reading all the posts here--you guys are great!

Dave--that's great! Sounds like the guy is really into you & willing to play along with your fantasies/desires. Enjoy it. I agree that it sounds totallly hot!

Stereoxchild--maybe it was just a "phase" for you or experimentation or a passing fancy. As long as you're happy, that's great. I hope you understand that some of us are more hardwired, and that's not necessarily a bad thing--just different. I'm all for people being whatever they want to be, be it g...

I've been reading a book called "The Brain That Changes Itself"--the author asserts that brain functions, personality and even sexuality are somewhat fluid--especially when you are younger. I don't think anyone has all the answers yet and maybe we never will. I would say that if something you're doi...

Jeshi--I guess to me it's somewhat unimportant what caused it--I'm gay, always have been, pretty much a "Kinsey 6". I've accepted it since I was 23 (49 now, grew up Catholic). It's hard to be an objective observer of your own mind--I've always had thoughts about guys since about 6th grade. I also kn...

Good for you, Dave! You seem like such a great guy & I wish you all the happiness in the world!

Alien, I did find an article in Discover magazine from 2007. There's at least one scientist who explains the "50%" by certain genes being "switched off, or methylated--that's his hypothesis. I guess there are other traits which are not necessarily the same in identical twins, like eye color and fing...

I guess we're a little off-topic (partly my fault), but its great that we can have an interesting discussion and maintain civility here. You are all Very Good Boys!

Alien, since the "program" tells you that it's a curse, can't be removed, etc, then maybe that thought comes up in your head when you are "trying" to get aroused by women. Do you *want* to go back? If you do, I have no doubt that you can do it, but it may take a while and you may have to "just let i...

Alien, you seem like a very thoughtful guy--the man or woman lucky enough to win your heart is going to be very lucky! Maybe you'll decide to "see what it's like" to be with another man--it happens, a lot from what I read, even without hypnosis. Maybe you'll like it, maybe not. Or maybe you'll meet ...

Seeing how you've listened to the file a bunch, and it has suggestions to get aroused, I'm not surprised you would get aroused reading it! I think for any guy, that's not a difficult suggestion to follow (getting aroused), since it's so pleasurable. Sorry to hear you're so isolated--feel free to PM ...

Alien--Geez, 20 lbs is nothing--you know you can lose that if you want to, and be healthier, but you know, no one's perfect! Even at 20 lbs overweight, you're still in better shape than about 80% of the population! I lost 25 lbs a couple years back and feel better--more energy. You can probably lose...

you know, just because homosexuality isn't "socially accepted" (and it is becoming more and more acceptable as people "evolve" and realize it is not a choice), doesn't mean it is wrong or wrong for you. Where I live, being a Michigan fan is not "socially acceptable", lol :D . Maybe you should focus ...