for most of my adult life I have suffered from shy bladder from one degree to another. I am hoping that this program will finally put an end to that. But because of the shy bladder, the command that "you cannot empty your bladder" is very powerful in my mind. I find myself becomming alittle anxious ...

Hi, I thought it might be useful to have a clear description of how the bladder works. In the infant, urination/voiding/micturition is purely a local reflex centered in the lower portion of the spinal cord. In infants two years old and under, involuntary voiding occurs whenever the bladder is suffic...

Hi, Based on this information, I would like to get comments to eventually build a positive reinforcement file in the style of the hellion0 trigger diaper dependance. if you consider that at age 2 the bladder works automatically with the spinal cord. then as the brain develops the child gets the "sen...

I think these files should be recursive meaning that the natural progression is to acheive the 2 year old response. The Hellion0 file has a dry out trigger, so there is a safety. how do you imagine losing control? I think it would be good to see what everyone considers is the best most effective mes...

hi, I think the listener has to fill in the blanks to some extent by drawing on his/her own experience. and again, I would want to stay away from negative words like no control. I re started this in a separate thread so there will be more comments there as well. Mindmaster uses the suggestion of rem...

I like that, I tweaked it just a little Now that you have the bladder behaviour of a toddler you will want to wear a toddler's underwear. Yes, you will want to wear diapers and this is fine since you love to wear diapers. They feel just right and fit so well. They are so comfortable and give you the...

hey,
this is what I had hoped for.
alot of participation and reccomendations.
there is no reason why this cannot be developed into a very useful script.
I appreciate every comment.
I hope others will chime in.

Hi, I read that induction and do not see any problem with it. "Now you can start counting backwards through the years of your life,.." seems to me the listener will pick the starting age or time. however, I wonder if the concept of transition is really neccessary. if the goal is early childhood, why...

OK, here is my first example. mostly based on the hellion0 pattern which I really liked and who deserves credit. see what you think. It can surely be refined and tuned, but I think it leaves you with the right feelings. ---induction--- ---body--- whenever I say the words "deeper and deeper still" yo...

Hi, all good points. I realize that in some ways this suggests a split personality. but the reality of this fetish is, I thnk, driven by a mild split in personality. if there is a better, or safer way to suggest it I want to know. the important part is that all behavior is intentional. I do not like...

Hi, ok so in this part: The toddler liked the feeling of making poopy, but it was stinky sometimes. Also, the grownups would not change the diaper until the little one made pee pee as well. "No wasting 2 diapers just because you made a poopy" they would say. You too will have to make this decision a...

Hi, Does anyone remember the classic original Pampers scent? Can you describe it? From what I can tell this would be before 1994. Then they went unscented for a time and reformulated the scent in 2003 to be more like baby powder. I was buying them throughout the 80's and seem to recall notes of Rose...

Have it!

This is a strong rose scent. interesting, but not the same.

I forgot about this one. As a baby powder scent it is really great, penetrating and long lasting.
http://store.escentialonline.com/shared/StoreFront/product_detail.asp?RowID=3253&CS=escential&All=
or just go to www.escential.net

I tried the mommy scent diaper fresh, and really did not think it matched my recollection of pampers. maybe one of the other competing brands. As of now I am finding that a mix of Clean warm cotton and Demeter Pure soap come very close to what I remember. It is a shame there is no accurate reference...

OK, here is my first example. there are no negative words, no submissive gestures and it is a daily affirmation file, so it is not permanent. see posting on "how the bladdder works" to understand my motivation. that description came from a medical website. mostly based on the hellion0 pattern which ...

Even if you respond to the idea of "losing control, it is more likely that you are internalizing it as "it is ok to pee right now" It is human nature to stay in control of things. Further, the urinary system is hard wired. up to about age 2 the brain plays no role. everything happens in the spinal c...

I would just be happy to learn what the "notes" were. But since the scent has not been used in nearly 20 years, it would require some research. I'm sure it is in a safe somewhere. I wonder if a properly constructed letter woule elicit some info. Who would you send it to?

Sure that is one definition. I guess generally it is a performance anxiety issue. But there are likely an infinity of variations on this. Specific to each person who suffers from it. Yes, it could be privacy. but it can also be the fact that others know you are in the bathroom. Must seem really triv...

This is nice. I have been recording my own scripts and one of the most powerful things I have done is to use my name. Personalizing the script really helps I think. But in generic scripts that cannot be known. So it may be an interesting twist to impose a nickname on the listener. and use that sprin...

try this revision. whenever I say the words "deeper and deeper still" you will feel your bladder sphincter muscles relax even more. Now go deeper and deeper still for me, even deeper and deeper still. memorize what I say: upon hearing the words "pontine release" your bladder will relax completely an...

just to follow up, here is a repeat of the info I found elsewhere on the net: In the infant, urination/voiding/micturition is purely a local reflex centered in the lower portion of the spinal cord. In infants two years old and under, involuntary voiding occurs whenever the bladder is sufficiently fu...

This records at about 15 minutes long. Add your own favorite induction. Shy Bladder and Diaper Connection As a Baby you wore Diapers and you were expected to go whenever you needed to. As a Toddler you were offered the choice of Diapers or Underwear. And while I'll bet you always chose Diapers, you ...

Thanks for the comments. I recorded this for myself and I really like how it works. Because it is basically and ego/confidence builder, it seems to integrate with real life better, I Think. I use MistE's induction http://www.warpmymind.com/modules.php?name=FilesNewsys&act=fetch&nopage=1&...

i see that EMG has a premium file called the ultimate shy bladder. Having shy bladder, I think this is cruel. but anyway. I would suspect that if you did not wear a diaper you would find yourself unable to pee. Maybe that would give you a taste of what your looking for.

induction: from now on, you will have the toilet skills of a toddler. You know when it is time to use the potty and you make every effort to do this when you are in your big boy underwear. but because you are still learning, your adult self may decide you should wear diapers most or all of the time ...

at this point I think we are in agreement. But if the medical pages are correct, then the wake-wet-forget approach would be the only way to make this happen. But that is not the same thing as regressing behaviour back to automatic. That, I think, is an impossibility. So again, the only issue I was t...

RE shy bladder, in the self help secton, there are 2 confidence files that are pretty good.
one is specificially confidence around others. I think the other is called tranquillty. You might give those a try.
Goodluck.

OK, I took the plunge and uploaded two files. Forgotten Babies induction and Baby Bladder Therapy. I hope you find them entertaining.

Thanks for your comments and encouragement. I am working on a reinforcement file for going off to sleep. Reviewing a bunch of old pampers commercials for content. It is interesting to look at these old commercials in audacity. they used a form of subliminal hypnosis, by boosting the level of key wor...

Hi, I just uploaded a reinforcer for my other 2 files. This is a mix of my words before and after a vintage 70's Pampers commercial about Mom and Baby stranded during a raging blizzard. I did some very slight editing to it and mixed it with rock a bye baby lullaby. 15 minutes long, but simply repeti...

I found a free script online and modified it slightly. appreciate any comments. Induction. Stepping Into The Light Visualize yourself in a long dark tunnel. If you can't visualize, just imagine or feel or sense yourself here in this tunnel. It's a large tunnel with plenty of space and at the end of ...

"I don't think anything is "hardwired" other than the physical ability of the mind to control the sphincters and to override the detrusor reflex. Just because those nerves are in place and functioning, that doesn't mean the mind has to make use of them if it can accept that it doesn't need to, and r...

I too have doubts that buried speech can be interpreted. I have seen comments about placebo and it strikes me that that makes more sense. lets say you have a background of rushing wind or water. Now, openly instruct the subject that buried in the "wind" is a message. and that message is "whatever yo...

I find this most interesting. in normal human development, nite time retention of uring is genetic. most everyone attains that by default. And that is why I always feel that it is impossible to undo that with hypnosis. but if you were a chronic bedwetter through age 16. that suggests to me, that for...

just found an interesting bug.
was reading through the diaper forum and clicked the top of page link and it blew me out to the welcome page!

induction: Once upon a time there was a cute little toddler, you know who, why it's you! This toddler was very happy and hoped to stay this way forever. The toddler knew that making the grownups happy is important, so the toddler tried best to use the potty whenever wearing grown up underwear . And ...

hi, I though I would share some of my research on perfumes and their use as triggers, sort of. I have been in search of the orginal pampers scent. Alas, no examples exists so you can only work from memory. were taking pre 1990. Pampers went unscented after that time, then returned with a new powder ...

I am beginning to think, that just like a mantra, everyones "message" is different. I guess we have all read, that canned programs are never the same as having a real hypnotist hypnotizing you. I have spent, it seems, forever trying to find a message for myself that is effective. I found a great ind...

I think that is too much. the best thing is to try and decide what it is you want and try and stick to a single message. Also, I beleive, as adults, you have to keep things in the adult perspective. There are aspects of our bodies that will never be like a babies body. most importantly that of feeli...

hi, I have been experimenting with Blink's basic induction and find this works well for me. I have also been trying to come up with a simpler more direct set of instructions and think I have stumbled on something good. based really on some scripting used in diaper commercials. maybe give it a try. j...

These are wonderful tapes. I wanted to say, if the tapes are actually filed with the copyright office, then you can be held liable from the day you first violated the law to the day you are discovered by the copyright holder. However, anything recorded is automatically copyright protected by its ver...

Hi, I have been using this gadget for a while now and thought I would share. Got mine at babies r us. it is a sound generator and picture projector. It is a very nice unit. the sounds are heartbeat, ocean and rain and also there are 3 tunes twinke, twinkle, rockabye baby and cradle song. Fidelity is...

Hi, I fully understand. I have concluded that control is essentially evolutionary and hypnosis is not going to sever your control. When you are 1-2 years old there is no connecton between the bladder and brain. during this time the bladder fills and empties automatically- this is what you would like...

This gave me a great idea. try reciting this one over and over. or record it and loop it. to the tune of pop goes the weasel. drop by drop my bladder fills up soon I will go wee wee The tingle tickles open the latch Out comes the pee pee The urge gets stronger every time I know I will go wee wee The...

Maybe I can clarify. Another way to look at this is to use the tingle you feel when you have to pee, as a trigger. Normally, when you feel that first tingle, your brain sends a signal that "blocks" your bladder from opening. You find a bathroom first. Here we would use the first tingle as a trigger ...

Here is something I am working on for my shy bladder. but it may prove useful to anyone looking for a natural trigger. You have a natural bladder response. you can still recognize this in many people; hopping around on one foot when they need to go. Most never loose the urge to go, they just learn t...

I you haven't seen this, you should. I grew up on these short films and Forgotten Babies seems to have played a major influence in my life. Anyway, I just finished an induction using the staircase scene as the subject. I will upload it soon. also have a bladder therapy file that is intended to repla...

I have been on a constant quest to track down this scent. Some have claimed to have it. But I don't find them to be even close. Unfortunately, the scent does not keep in the diaper itself. so there is no way to find an example of it. One can only work on nose memory. I want to suggest that my latest...

the red flash and the "voice going with you" are like keyword triggers. I use the same idea using urges to pee as a trigger to relax and let go. But here I am suggesting that we use a sound as a substitute for a message - while in trance. I wonder if that would be one way to introduce a strong negat...