Hi. I've just started listening to these files five days ago. I am a gay bottom, happy with being gay, and, while being able to aesthetically appreciate nude women in art, have never been attracted to girls and grossed out by the thought of sexual contact with a female. I figured I would try this to...

Just listened to a loop of four. A couple of things I've noticed that I thought I would mention. I have opened up to the idea of hooking up with a trans man, even if they are pre-op and still have a vagina. I suppose that should not be surprising. I know there is born with trans women, but I've neve...

For my second listen tonight, I switched to CFS for a loop of three. I was choosing HC primarily because I wanted to not have the submissive effects of CFS if this works fully. After, I watched more bi porn. The first scene was one guy and two girls. The guy seemed to fade into the background for me...

I intend to continue. And what said about new interests brings new supports makes sense.

Something I've noticed also is I seem to be so addicted to the files, it's become obsessive and all I want to do. I know there's addictive files, but I've never been affected to this extent.

Two to three sessions a day. Each session is looped for three or four repetitions. I also edited the inductions and awakeners off so there's one induction, three or four bodies, and one awakeners.

And, I've only been at this for six days.

I'll try.

I joined a bi dating app.

Did you use the term bro before the files?

Thanks for responding. Hopefully some others will join the conversation and give some encouragement. Not sure yet if using the combo is better than choosing one. I would say that my porn viewing last night was the most successful yet, but don't know if it was the combo or the switch to CFS. Only thi...

I did another loop of CFS this morning. I fell into a deep trance, where I blacked out towards the beginning and woke up right before the awakened. From what I understand, this means that I'm receptive to the conditioning, as well as deep unconscious trance still having an effect if your mind alread...

It's not so much concern over my friends accepting me. It's more of the "suddenly happening" that could be disconcerting. I'm 43 and have been firmly gay in all ways, publicly and privately, my whole life. I understand how you might think that it shouldn't be a big deal. You are young and ...

What is Braziers?

I'll look it up.

In all my porn searching, I've never come across the name Brazzers. There was mention way back in the forums about CFS about taking a break from masturbating for a bit to help your brain reset and was supposed to help with the change. I'm thinking of trying it, but I'm hornier than I usually am, so ...

Well, conco, I wouldn't really call it a backslide if you are still in bi status.

Last night, while watching a movie, I had some mournful feelings about being gay that I might be leaving behind.

I was feeling mournful/depressed about what in my current life I might lose.

That's true. Probably it was partly not knowing what will replace it, so I can't compare it yet.

So, I'm at the one week point. I have stayed away from porn for two days. Just did a test with some pics, some nude, some not. With guys, my attraction is a little duller, and I am almost unsure if I want to have sex with them or just be friends. With girls, my attraction is stronger and gets me har...

So, I just experienced some daydreaming, which is rare in itself. I was sitting with my legs wide and suddenly imagined a girl appear between my legs sucking me off. Then, a few minutes later, I was randomly looking off and imagined a girl standing in the corner.

Outkast, have you used the files and had success? You seem to speak from experience.

I have a lower libido, generally and due to mess I take, but I get harder with girls than I get in general. I know there's suggestions for high libido with girls in HC. Don't know any files offhand that deal with libido specifically. I was out earlier and was noticing guys and girls with almost equa...

Solidweeny, this forum is pretty lonely with only Conco and myself. Where are all these other guys you speak of? More people interacting would help even more.

Conco, I try to do two sets of HC, with CFS if I do a third listen. I'm not sure if HC would be enough on its own without the other supporting it. But, I wish there was one file combining HC and the strengths of CFS. Even throwing in some more libido heightening and masculinization. One that was spo...

Is anyone else reading this regularly?

So, I was noticing more guys than girls while being out today. But, haven't used porn or jerked off for four days. It was a scene with two guys and a girl. Was into one of the guys most of the three, but it turned into me following him and putting myself in his place, so got off to what he was doing...

I'm only a couple days into the second week. So, you are about two weeks ahead of me, if I'm right.

Compared to jerking off to porn, there isn't so drastic a change when out and about. Still notice guys more. I saw a couple guys I have crushes on and nothing seems different. I do occasionally notice a girl here and there, and am attracted to them.

I assume you meant to say how fully I identified as gay before.

It might be where intentional attempts, such as looking at porn, change before automatic reactions when other things are going on at the same time. I do find the occasional girl attractive out of the blue when going out.

So, I guess you have an aesthetic appreciation for guys and admiration for their masculinity, in the sense that you want to be like them, but not a deeper attraction or desire to be sexual in any way. Have you found being around guys different or easier, since there's no attraction? Also, have you e...

So, I tried gay porn for the first time since starting listening. I thought all the guys were hot, got pretty hard, but found it bland on another level. I even thought something like a guy would work as a mouth when you're in need. I switched to straight porn and got fully hard and turned on and cam...

Conco, would you have considered yourself somewhat asexual more than gay before? If so, that may complicate things if there is little to no sex drive to change.

Tried gay and straight porn again. Only got half hard with the gay but fully hard with the straight. Again, the feeling of some attraction, with some purely aesthetic appreciation, to the gay guys, but put myself in the place of the straight guy.

Really fair answer regarding your possible asexuality. Of course, libido is different from sexuality also, so increasing libido wouldn't affect sexuality, as far as I could guess. Only did the Male Sexual Animal that one time so far, but no immediate lasting effects so far. I will be trying it again...

Here are a couple of interesting things I saw posted for CurseForcedGay that sound like a good barometer to judge our success here by. "You have to distinguish between sexual, romantic and aesthetic attraction. Gays may find girls nice and attractive but just don't want sex with them. Many hete...

Hope you'll continue to follow my progress, even if you have reached success.

I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I think you misunderstood what I was asking. I was asking if the addiction aspect of the file manifested itself as an obsession, like a drug addiction, or if it's not meant to be that intense. I am asking to see if my reaction is the norm, or if it can v...

A bit. Thanks for the input. Hopefully, others can chime in and I can maybe come to a consensus.

Supposedly, two months of listening is an average for starting to feel it being permanent.

I am visiting this thread as a listener of HeteroConversion, as I have a question and this thread appears to be much more active. In regards to a file being addictive, like these sexuality files are supposed to be, I have been listening for about two weeks. I have never had a drive to listen to a fi...

I had minor surgery yesterday. Still got a couple listens in. I think I'm feeling more aesthetic attraction than sexual looking at guys in pics, more like I want to just be friends, whereas I'm staring and more attracted to girls. Still think it's taking longer to change for live encounters. Still n...

I was watching a solo domination video of a guy flexing and talking down to the viewer. I found myself wanting to just be friends with the dom guy and admiring and wanting to be as muscular as him. Also thought it might be fun being in the video with him, talking down to the viewer. I have been list...

Stryper, I tried messaging you back, but it says you have disabled receiving messages.

Fixed and responded.

That also sounds like you had an awesome experience. I got hard just reading it. I guess you checked out every girl you saw, but obviously found yourself more attracted to at least the one. You seem pretty straight to me. Watching the domination videos, it was weird wanting to join in calling the vi...

Yes, I'm going to continue posting. I still have a good deal of time before I figure out where I'll end up on the spectrum after a couple months of listening. This could actually be an interesting twist on the nature vs. nurture conversation.

Like I said, we both have a while to go before judging any success on our parts.

Awesome!

After some listening, I do not feel that I will personally progress beyond a stage of bisexuality. One of the reasons I feel this way is that the files only really deal with changing your physical sexual reactions to stimuli. An improvement might be reached by adding something that attempts to chang...